Re: Connecting two DMP alarms together? Outputs to Zones? Possible?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

dunno...gray market probably.

this is how products...any product..can get a bad rap...someone who doesn't
know the system/programming etc....just an overall comment.

what he is trying to do I quite often without a secondary panel...just 4
conductors to the guest house and wire everything to the keypad location.



"Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Hmmm, Where would a DIYer get a DMP panel, and the support to program
it???
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| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:_ufwf.13$H86.560@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > ps...as a partitioned system the garage could have acted as a totally
| > separate alarm system (arm/disarm, etc). It could even have it's own
| > account
| > number.
| >
| >
| > "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:UVcwf.33$C1.757@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | The XR-200 is partitionable you could have just put a expansion keypad
| > in
| > | the garage and ran 4 zones off the keypad and run that on it's own
| > | partition...or a  regular keypad and 4 or 8 or 16 zone expander. They
| > only
| > | thing you wouldn't have is a separate siren for the garage system
(which
| > you
| > | could rig another way). One partition for the house, one for the
garage,
| > | both on the same account number saving the client having to pay for 2
| > | monitored accounts. Would have been less for equipment as well.
| > |
| > | You know the 200 will expand to 250+ plus zones right - so you
couldn't
| > be
| > | out of zones on the 200 unless your house is really really big.
| > |
| > | You're probably the only DIY'er I've run into on the internet using
DMP.
| > |
| > |
| > | "Jason Millard" <jsm174@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:dhbwf.1634$7l4.883@xxxxxxxxxxx
| > || Okay, I tried posting a couple times but they never made it through.
| > | Here's
| > || another try.
| > ||
| > || Actually the system isn't commericial. The XR200 is attached to the
| > house,
| > || and the
| > || XRSuper6 is attached to a garage. All the zones are used up in the
| > house,
| > || except for
| > || 7 and 8.
| > ||
| > || I'm not a professional alarm system installer. I'm just a DIY, with
the
| > | only
| > || experience
| > || being DMP panels.
| > ||
| > || You are right, that I could have brought the fire zone and burglary
| > into
| > | to
| > || the XR200,
| > || but I didn't want to do that. I wanted the garage to be armed
separate.
| > ||
| > || So the only way I thought I could tie the two systems together would
be
| > if
| > | I
| > || used the
| > || annuciator outputs of the XRSuper6.
| > ||
| > || Regardless of industry best practices (which I 100% respect),
shouldn't
| > I
| > | be
| > || able to
| > || do accomplish this?
| > ||
| > || I'm starting to understand more about how the outputs work, ie going
to
| > || ground when
| > || triggered. I realize that if I tie into aux power, and use the
output,
| > | when
| > || the alarm is triggered
| > || I will get 12V across the line. When the output is not active, I
| > somehow
| > || need to come
| > || up with a normally closed circuit. Would I need to use a transistor
or
| > | relay
| > || somehow?
| > ||
| > || Again, thank you all for your responses. I really appreciate it.
| > ||
| > || I have a couple more questions about DMPs keypad bus system. But I
will
| > || start
| > || another topic.
| > ||
| > || Thanks,
| > || -- Jason Millard
| > ||
| > || "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > || news:Y7Svf.6$Sy5.280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || > besides, this sounds like a commercial installation and the xr-6 is
| > not
| > || > commercial fire rated (pretty sure it's not)...you may be better
off
| > || > running
| > || > a fire rated zone expander off the 200 over to the other
| > building...that
| > || > way
| > || > its also supervised.
| > || >
| > || > there are other possibilities as well.
| > || >
| > || >
| > || > "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > || > news:iUQvf.4$Dz3.145@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || > | They're collector outputs.
| > || > |
| > || > | Why do you want to do this? If you can run a wire from the xr-200
| > why
| > || > not
| > || > | just put that systems fire zone on one of the xr-200 fire zones
( 9
| > &
| > || > 10 )
| > || > | are both 2 wire smoke det. fire zones on the 200.
| > || > |
| > || > |
| > || > |
| > || > | <jsm174@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > || > | news:1136616550.188900.141080@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || > || Hello.
| > || > ||
| > || > || I have two DMP alarm panels. I have an XR200 and a XRSuper6 -
both
| > in
| > || > || different buildings approximately 100' away.
| > || > ||
| > || > || I have the XRSuper6 configured to activate output 3 whenever a
| > Fire
| > || > || condition is triggered. It is also configured to activate output
4
| > || > || whenever a Burglary condition is triggered.
| > || > ||
| > || > || I am trying to tie those outputs into the XR200 as zones 7 and
8.
| > || > ||
| > || > || I'm confused about how outputs work. From the manual:
| > || > ||
| > || > || "The four annunicator outputs can be programmed to indicate the
| > || > || activity ofthe panel's zones or conditions occurring on the
| > system.
| > || > || Annunciator outputs do not provide a voltage but instead
| > || > || switch-to-ground voltage from another source."
| > || > ||
| > || > || For my system to work correctly, it is almost like I need the
| > outputs
| > || > || to act like door contacts... Closed when not in alarm, and open
| > when
| > | in
| > || > || alarm.
| > || > ||
| > || > || I've checked for continuity between the panel ground and the
alarm
| > || > || output, but it is always open. Thus when I try to arm the XR200,
| > I'm
| > || > || getting faults on zones 7 and 8.
| > || > ||
| > || > || Has anyone ever tried to do something like this?
| > || > ||
| > || > || Thanks,
| > || > || -- Jason Millard
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