Re: Connecting two DMP alarms together? Outputs to Zones? Possible?

["Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hmmm, Where would a DIYer get a DMP panel, and the support to program it???

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> ps...as a partitioned system the garage could have acted as a totally
> separate alarm system (arm/disarm, etc). It could even have it's own
> account
> number.
>
>
> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:UVcwf.33$C1.757@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | The XR-200 is partitionable you could have just put a expansion keypad
> in
> | the garage and ran 4 zones off the keypad and run that on it's own
> | partition...or a  regular keypad and 4 or 8 or 16 zone expander. They
> only
> | thing you wouldn't have is a separate siren for the garage system (which
> you
> | could rig another way). One partition for the house, one for the garage,
> | both on the same account number saving the client having to pay for 2
> | monitored accounts. Would have been less for equipment as well.
> |
> | You know the 200 will expand to 250+ plus zones right - so you couldn't
> be
> | out of zones on the 200 unless your house is really really big.
> |
> | You're probably the only DIY'er I've run into on the internet using DMP.
> |
> |
> | "Jason Millard" <jsm174@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:dhbwf.1634$7l4.883@xxxxxxxxxxx
> || Okay, I tried posting a couple times but they never made it through.
> | Here's
> || another try.
> ||
> || Actually the system isn't commericial. The XR200 is attached to the
> house,
> || and the
> || XRSuper6 is attached to a garage. All the zones are used up in the
> house,
> || except for
> || 7 and 8.
> ||
> || I'm not a professional alarm system installer. I'm just a DIY, with the
> | only
> || experience
> || being DMP panels.
> ||
> || You are right, that I could have brought the fire zone and burglary
> into
> | to
> || the XR200,
> || but I didn't want to do that. I wanted the garage to be armed separate.
> ||
> || So the only way I thought I could tie the two systems together would be
> if
> | I
> || used the
> || annuciator outputs of the XRSuper6.
> ||
> || Regardless of industry best practices (which I 100% respect), shouldn't
> I
> | be
> || able to
> || do accomplish this?
> ||
> || I'm starting to understand more about how the outputs work, ie going to
> || ground when
> || triggered. I realize that if I tie into aux power, and use the output,
> | when
> || the alarm is triggered
> || I will get 12V across the line. When the output is not active, I
> somehow
> || need to come
> || up with a normally closed circuit. Would I need to use a transistor or
> | relay
> || somehow?
> ||
> || Again, thank you all for your responses. I really appreciate it.
> ||
> || I have a couple more questions about DMPs keypad bus system. But I will
> || start
> || another topic.
> ||
> || Thanks,
> || -- Jason Millard
> ||
> || "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> || news:Y7Svf.6$Sy5.280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> || > besides, this sounds like a commercial installation and the xr-6 is
> not
> || > commercial fire rated (pretty sure it's not)...you may be better off
> || > running
> || > a fire rated zone expander off the 200 over to the other
> building...that
> || > way
> || > its also supervised.
> || >
> || > there are other possibilities as well.
> || >
> || >
> || > "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> || > news:iUQvf.4$Dz3.145@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> || > | They're collector outputs.
> || > |
> || > | Why do you want to do this? If you can run a wire from the xr-200
> why
> || > not
> || > | just put that systems fire zone on one of the xr-200 fire zones ( 9
> &
> || > 10 )
> || > | are both 2 wire smoke det. fire zones on the 200.
> || > |
> || > |
> || > |
> || > | <jsm174@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> || > | news:1136616550.188900.141080@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> || > || Hello.
> || > ||
> || > || I have two DMP alarm panels. I have an XR200 and a XRSuper6 - both
> in
> || > || different buildings approximately 100' away.
> || > ||
> || > || I have the XRSuper6 configured to activate output 3 whenever a
> Fire
> || > || condition is triggered. It is also configured to activate output 4
> || > || whenever a Burglary condition is triggered.
> || > ||
> || > || I am trying to tie those outputs into the XR200 as zones 7 and 8.
> || > ||
> || > || I'm confused about how outputs work. From the manual:
> || > ||
> || > || "The four annunicator outputs can be programmed to indicate the
> || > || activity ofthe panel's zones or conditions occurring on the
> system.
> || > || Annunciator outputs do not provide a voltage but instead
> || > || switch-to-ground voltage from another source."
> || > ||
> || > || For my system to work correctly, it is almost like I need the
> outputs
> || > || to act like door contacts... Closed when not in alarm, and open
> when
> | in
> || > || alarm.
> || > ||
> || > || I've checked for continuity between the panel ground and the alarm
> || > || output, but it is always open. Thus when I try to arm the XR200,
> I'm
> || > || getting faults on zones 7 and 8.
> || > ||
> || > || Has anyone ever tried to do something like this?
> || > ||
> || > || Thanks,
> || > || -- Jason Millard
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