Re: 5540 Silent Knight Software Question

["Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

4th column meaning A,B,C,D ?  Will a standard DTMF decoder read these 4th
column tones?


"Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:RaadnSAEcoIBwbHeRVn-uw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Only problem is...those DTMF tones are 4th column frequencies. Not the
> same
> as a standard touch tone phone frequencies. :-(
> If it's SIA, your further screwed.
> Sorry, wish I had better news for you.
>
>
> "Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:432c4e14$0$13509$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> If the panel sends an alarm in DTMF and also sends it's account number in
>> DTMF then I could capture those tones as it is sending to the CS.
>> Then I could run the .wav file through a DTMF decode and I would have the
>> account number.
>> I'm not sure if the panel is set to send SIA or FSK. It has both
>> available
>> in the programming and I don't know what they set it to.
>>
>> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eumdnfXkaq3szbHeRVn-1Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > "Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:432c23e6$0$13504$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> The 5530 modem would communicate with the panel if the panel was
> calling
>> > the
>> >> modem over the phone line.
>> >> The 5540 software would read the data the panel is sending and put it
> in
>> > the
>> >> list.
>> >> It would show up as an account that was not scheduled to call.
>> >
>> > It "would", or it did?
>> >
>> >> Then I could select this account from the list and tell the software:
> the
>> >> next time this panel calls -
>> >> upload the eeprom to this computer.
>> >> The only issue I am having is that I am trying to connect the panel to
>> >> the
>> >> modem straight without going over the phone line.
>> >> If the panel is programmed to dial without waiting for dial tone then
> the
>> >> only issue would be will the modem pick up the tones the
>> >> panel is sending.
>> > It depends what's making the panel grap dial tone, and dial. If it is
>> > an
>> > alarm, the panel is going to attempt to send DTMF. Your modem is
>> > waiting
>> > for
>> > FSK.
>> >
>> > Since this modem is designed specifically for programming
>> >> this panel it stands to reason it will work.
>> >
>> > The panel automatically switches on incomming calls to recieve FSK
> signals
>> > for remote programming. Even if you could/can initiate a remote
>> > download
>> > from the panel...you're missing the account number for a successful
>> > communication in FSK via the modem. Alarm sends DTMF.
>> >
>> >> I know I can call the panel and download into the panel directly, but
>> >> this
>> >> would wipe out all existing programming.
>> >> This is what I want to avoid.
>> >> I am going to try and read the DTMF phone number the panel is calling.
>> > Does
>> >> the panel transmit it's account # in DTMF as well?
>> >
>> > DSC used to make a nifty little hand held receiver/simulator, but if
> your
>> > panel is transmitting CID, it's pretty fast, and I doubt you'd be able
> to
>> > see it.
>> > Pull your zone list from the keypad, and default the panel. If that's
> even
>> > possible....
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:QbydnXvVL7oG9rbeRVn-pA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > No. Sorry for the misleading answer.
>> >> > Receivers typically issue the ack tones in DTMF, some FSK, a few
> BFSK,
>> > and
>> >> > SDLC.
>> >> > Most downloading software uses modems to communicate to the panel in
> an
>> >> > FSK
>> >> > (Modem) format. What Bill is trying to do won't, or should I say,
>> >> > shouldn't
>> >> > work.
>> >> > CID is a DTMF (Touch Tone) format, not FSK.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> > news:WYIWe.20$v93.1313@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> So you think it will dump data on ack to the programming software?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't think it's work with Compass unless the csid or account
>> >> >> numbers
>> >> >> match. I know it won't work with Remote Link either...of course I
>> >> >> dunno
>> >> > much
>> >> >> abt Silent Knight.
>> >> >> ===
>> >> >> OH...btw...do NOT connect battery leads backwards on an XR20 even
> for
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> nanosecond :-(...I think you guys put a curse on me last week.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:04CdnYg_kfTXzLbenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | It will. It's looking for "Ack" tones, not FSK modem tones.
>> >> >> |
>> >> >> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> | news:rcIWe.11$8x5.1072@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > I think he's trying to hack into a panel with programming
> software
>> > so
>> >> > he
>> >> >> | can
>> >> >> | > pull out the account number so that he can reprogram it...I
> doubt
>> > he
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> | > get it to work...at least that's my take on it.
>> >> >> | >
>> >> >> | > I don't think he's gonna be able to trap the panel to extract
> the
>> >> >> passcode
>> >> >> | > or lockcode or account number I believe it's gonna just hangup
> on
>> > the
>> >> >> | > software.
>> >> >> | >
>> >> >> | >
>> >> >> | > "mikey" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> | > news:eLidnRjoGMq3p7beRVn-hQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | Get what to work? You mean you guys understand what the heck
>> >> >> he's
>> >> >> trying
>> >> >> | > to
>> >> >> | > | do. I'm lost.
>> >> >> | > |
>> >> >> | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> | > | news:kVBWe.5$8x5.768@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | > I doubt you will get it to work.
>> >> >> | > | >
>> >> >> | > | > You may want to try a dial tone simulator between the panel
>> >> >> and
>> >> > the
>> >> >> | > | > software.
>> >> >> | > | >
>> >> >> | > | >
>> >> >> | > | >
>> >> >> | > | > "Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> | > | > news:432ab8d6$0$13562$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | > | Yes, I am trying to do an upload, but I need to know the
>> >> >> account
>> >> >> | > number
>> >> >> | > | to
>> >> >> | > | > | request an upload.
>> >> >> | > | > | I don't have the account number.  The software will
>> >> >> accept
>> >> >> calls
>> >> >> | from
>> >> >> | > | any
>> >> >> | > | > | panel and log the alarm.
>> >> >> | > | > | If I can get it to connect then it would log the account
>> > number
>> >> > as
>> >> >> | > well
>> >> >> | > | as
>> >> >> | > | > | the alarm and the
>> >> >> | > | > | software would tell the panel to call back in 15 minutes.
>> >> >> | > | > | I could then select that account from the list and tell
> the
>> >> >> | software,
>> >> >> | > | the
>> >> >> | > | > | next time this account calls upload the panels eeprom
>> >> >> | > | > | to the computer.  I know this would work if the panel was
>> >> > calling
>> >> >> | over
>> >> >> | > a
>> >> >> | > | > | standard phone line, but since I can't get into the
>> >> >> | > | > | programming mode, I can't change the number it calls.  It
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> | > | recommended
>> >> >> | > | > | that I let the panel call out, then unplug the phone line
>> >> >> and
>> >> > use
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> | > | > regular
>> >> >> | > | > | phone to dial the number I want , then plug the alarms
> phone
>> >> > jack
>> >> >> | back
>> >> >> | > | in
>> >> >> | > | > | when it starts ringing.  I'm not sure if that would work
>> >> >> either.
>> >> >> | > | > | Any thoughts?
>> >> >> | > | > |
>> >> >> | > | > | Bill
>> >> >> | > | > | simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | > |
>> >> >> | > | > | "Doug L" <vssdoug@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> | > | > | news:x4SdnTWTtO1VILfeRVn-iw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | > | > My guess is that nothing will happen other than a
>> >> > communication
>> >> >> | > | failure,
>> >> >> | > | > | > while not being familiar with the software or the panel
> in
>> >> >> | question,
>> >> >> | > | it
>> >> >> | > | > | > sounds like you are trying to use a upload/download
>> >> >> package
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> | > | > | > transmit/receive alarm signals.
>> >> >> | > | > | >
>> >> >> | > | > | > Doug L
>> >> >> | > | > | > --
>> >> >> | > | > | >
>> >> >> | > | > | > "Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> | > | > | > news:432a7c19$0$13523$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | > | >>I am planning on connecting straight to the panel using
>> >> >> the
>> >> > 5530
>> >> >> | > | modem.
>> >> >> | > | > | >> When an alarm is triggered the panel normally dials
>> >> >> the
>> >> > number
>> >> >> | > | > programmed
>> >> >> | > | > | >> to report the alarm.
>> >> >> | > | > | >> What will happen now that the modem is plugged into
>> >> >> the
>> >> > panels
>> >> >> | > phone
>> >> >> | > | > | >> jack?
>> >> >> | > | > | >> Will it still try to dial?  Will the modem just ignore
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> panels
>> >> >> | > | > dialing
>> >> >> | > | > | >> and send the connect tones?
>> >> >> | > | > | >>
>> >> >> | > | > | >> Thanks for the help.
>> >> >> | > | > | >>
>> >> >> | > | > | >> Bill
>> >> >> | > | > | >> simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> | > | > | >>
>> >> >> | > | > | >>
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