Re: Voip Problems?

[bdolph <bdolph@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim,
Yes, the cavity or knockout idea seems the best.  I agree with you in
that it will not probably happen across the board.  However, it would be
nice to see one leading window manufacture try it.  With all the
technology going in to houses these days, this would appear to be a
no-brainer.

BobbyD

Jim wrote:

>bdolph wrote:
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>>Jim,
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>>So to recap the window comments.  The windows needs to come with a
>>couple optional cavities (tampered?) that are designed for standard size
>>alarm industry contacts;  that can be pre-mounted and are mounted in
>>such a way that they are then accessible for repair and replacement
>>without damaging the window.
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>>Piece of cake.
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>Are you saying that the windows should or should not have the contacts
>installed at the window factory?
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>If installed at the factory, there was still the problem of the
>switches being damaged by hammer blows during installation and/or lead
>damage or leads made in-accessable by un-"witted" window installers.
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>How about THIS?   "Knock-outs" on "every" window that would hold a
>standard size ..... lets say 3/8 inch recessed contact. This way, the
>window mfg, makes every window the same, no special assembly. Alarm
>installer simply "knocks out" the plug and installs his own contact.
>But, then, would that mean that in pre-wire jobs, the wires would have
>to be run ** before ** the windows were installed? And on after market
>jobs, of what real value would a pre-existing hole in the window have
>as far as ease of installation? You still have to drill to the attic or
>basement. All I can see is that, if their contact hole were used, it
>would absolve the alarm installer from voiding the warranty.
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>If the window mfg could even be enticed to TALK about alarm contacts on
>their windows ....however, I'm sure they would not want to do the
>"knock out" thing. They'd only want to think of it in terms of making
>it a SPECIAL item, so that they could charge four times as much as it
>was really worth. Which .... we all know, would price it right out of
>the market, because the alarm guy would still have to make his money.
>The wires still have to be snaked and holes to the basement or attic
>still have to be drilled.
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>About the only condition that I can think of where a saving would take
>place, is if it were a wireless job and the contact leads were just
>extended to reach the transmitter.
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>I don't think it's ever gonna happen...... again.
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>>BobbyD
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