Re: Fire Side Chat -- Fire Alarm Code Issue

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"Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Frank Olson" <feolson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:0Iebe.1132781$Xk.362122@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>> "Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Any add-on relays to interconnect the smoke
>>>> alarms to the security system must be compatible
>>>> with the smoke alarms, yes.
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>>> They must also be listed for the purpose.
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>> <sigh>  Nope.  There is no requirement for the interconnect relay or the built-in one on some
>> smoke alarms to be specifically listed for connection to a home's security panel or auto
>> dialler.
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> You're dancing around the question because you know you're wrong.  The device must be listed
> for the purpose.  Relays built-into listed smoke detectors don't require a separate listing.
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> with the alarm control panel if it's panel specific (for example, a 2-wire smoke) or with alarm
> conrol panels in general if it's not.  For example, you can
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>> If you were connecting it to a listed *and
>> certified* UL residential security control,
>> then that would be a "horse of a different
>> colour"...
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> Wrong again.  Code mandates do not depend on certification of the installation.

Hmm.... quote......

"Relay Modules may be used to connect a group of interconnected alarms to a fire alarm / security
panels (NFPA 11.9 2002 edition). When an interconnected relay is connected to an alarm / security
panel, the panel will know the alarms have sounded, but will not know which alarm in the
interconnected group originated the signal. If you wish to send both smoke and CO information to
the panel you will need to use both the SM 120X and "

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