Re: CBus Toolkit

[Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Phil -

thanks ... interesting, too, 'cos implies people / customers having
clear ideas about what's needed & how it should work ... what chance
that being the case a domestic HA job, I wonder ...

incidentally, Googled a bit on C-Bus (hence that energy-saving device
for fluorescent lamps) ... and learnt that C-Bus is a very popular
install for Russian country houses ... 'wonder how far they go, HA-
wise ?

Chris


On 9 Jun 2007, at 13:17, Phil Harris wrote:

>
>> thanks ... good answer !
>
> Thanks...
>
>> no idea how many full time staff such a stadium would have,
>> but 'wonder if one of them would be dedicated to the C-Bus
>> system, to keep its settings & programming current, for
>
> Why would you want to "keep things current"?
>
> Unless the install changes the system stays *EXACTLY* the same ...
> On big
> installs such as stadiums and commercial buildings the last thing
> you do is
> change anything unless there is a specific reason to do so (i.e.
> correcting
> identified bugs or security issues that directly affect the
> operation of the
> install). Testing and certification (signoff) is done to a known
> system and
> if people are making changes to those systems then that invalidates
> the
> testing and certification so obviously this is kept to a minimum.
>
> The last thing that anyone should be doing is getting a message saying
> "There are new updates available - do you want to isnstall
now?",
> let alone
> being given the opportunity to hit "Yes". :-D
>
>> whatever event could be happening
>
> Events (as with commercial building usage patterns) tend to fit
> into nicely
> segmented categories and so can be covered by relatively few lighting
> scenarios...
>
>> ... or maybe it's install &
>> almost-forget - ie: get the guys in from Clipsal or whoever
>> once & a while ... when the odd thing needs doing ...
>
> The normal way a large project would work is that the main electrical
> contractor (appointed by the main contractor) would bring in one or
> more sub
> contractors to install the C-Bus cabling, perhaps more sub
> contractors to
> terminate and test each cable run and an integrator to program up
> the entire
> system and any head end control systems.
>
> There would then be maintenance agreements put in place whereby if
> there are
> any faults with the system then they would be rectified by the
> integrator
> and any updates/changes would be handled by the integrator - it
> would be
> *VERY* unusual (however not unknown) for a staff member at such a
> facility
> to do updates and changes themselves beyond possibly being able to
> swap out
> a failed drive from a redundant array...
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>