Re: Do these exist: "Instant on" or very rapid start CFL???

[Marc_F_Hult <MFHult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Oops. I wrote "Lloyd" where I should have written (and meant to write)
"Mark".

Sorry... Marc

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:46:23 -0400, Marc_F_Hult
<MFHult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
<78cqv6pjtu90sd1lsb4c2ro69q6vsduped@xxxxxxx>:

>On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:16:38 -0500, Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote in message  <a51qv6h0qp37ajb4slls9oiasrmlqsbfi1@xxxxxxx>:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:53:45 -0400, Marc_F_Hult
>><MFHult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>>>But sounds to me, based on the sparse info provided,
>...
>>>that your INSTEON issues
>>>were caused by incorrect/conflicting programming of the individual devices
>>>rather than primarily signal problems.
>>
>>I didn't do any programming other than following THEIR (Smarthome's)
>>instructions. IIRC, that involved pushing a button on the module and
>>pushing one on the controller. Maybe there were other settings, but
>>the modules were never reliable enough to try them.
>>
>>>There are two solution that I know of and have used to successfully
install
>>>INSTEON: 1) Either be very careful, and accurate, and methodical, and take
>>>notes while manually and individually programming the devices using
>>>Smarthome's instructions, or 2) Do all the programming through an ISY
>>>controller. www.universal-devices.com
>>
>>I didn't know about such a device 4 years ago. I'd read about it if I
>>had any intention of trying Insteon again.
>>
>>>For anything but a very small or toy system,
>>
>>Does "small" include 2 modules and 1 controller. That's all I
>>connected and it still messed up.
>
>
>Some points for folks considering INSTEON to ponder about the information
>presented by Lloyd in his posts.
>
>1) Based on his description " 2 modules and 1 controller" and "that involved
>pushing a button on the module and pushing one on the controller" and $90"
>what he was working with was entirely RF and has nothing whatsoever to do
>with INSTEON performance over the powerline.  Nada.
>
>2) None of the widely described issues I recall or have personally
>experienced had/have anything to do with the actual hardware he was using.
On
>the contrary, my experience with the RF modules and RF controllers has been
>stellar. INSTANT-ON = INSTEON. Bang!
>
>3) Lloyd writes that "It" messed up. IMO, the odds are overwhelming that he
>mis-programmed it. IOW, "He" messed up. Easy to do. Easy to fix if one can
>follow instructions exactly. And when/if one "messes up", one ****IMPORTANT
>*** needs to reset the modules to the factory default modules before trying
>to re-program. Otherwise the subsequent programming of the devices can be
>effectively cumulative (additive)  with the resulting chaos that Lloyd
>describes.
>
>4) His experience with INSTEON was four years ago, before widely described
>issues with _powerline_ INSTEON that emerged were diagnosed and resolved.
>
>So it is unclear to me what parts of his description of his experience would
>usefully inform decisions by someone currently interested in INSTEON.
>
>My dos centavos ... Marc
>
>Marc_F_Hult
>www.ECOntrol.org