Re: A mentor / Advisor ?

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

I think you've confirmed most of my Z-Wave criticisms (which I made at the
time it was introduced). Perhaps the newest hardware will address them,
perhaps not. I'd recommend a "wait and see" approach.

I believe Chris Walker is an employee of a company that manufactures
products under Z-Wave license. I would expect him to have a favorable view
of Z-Wave. If I wanted to read Z-Wave propaganda I'd just take Bass out of
my killfile. I'd prefer to hear from end-users (with larger installations)
or from installers. You can find many of both types (with a mixture of happy
& unhappy) in Smarthome's Insteon support groups. Bruce Robin, who posts
here frequently, has a large Insteon installation with which he's happy
except for wanting to control it using his existing JDS Stargate.

"Dean Roddey" <droddey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:455109a2.271846875@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> You say, "Some folks have larger systems" and earlier you referred to
>> seeing
>> several threads from people who had tried both Insteon and Z-Wave. URLs to
>> any such threads would be welcomed by those here trying to decide between
>> the two. Reports from installers whose profitability depends on
>> reliability
>> would be especially welcomed.
>>
>
>I don't have them handy. Go to cocoontech and search for Chris Walker. I'm
>sure you guys could have a good debate.
>
>> If RadioRA is two-way, then the modules must be transceivers. Why then do
>> they need separate (and multiple) repeaters?
>>
>
>Dunno. I'm a software geek, and don't know nothin bout those types of
>things.
>
>> Free air range is not a valid indicator for indoor range (as you have
>> noted). I have extensive experience with low power radio modules like
>> these
>> and my rule of thumb (which holds up fairly well) is that reliable indoor
>> range is about 20% of free air range. I'd like to see how well they
>> perform
>> in the plaster over wire lath construction that San Francisco's firecodes
>> required when I installed commercial sound systems there in the early
>> '60s.
>>
>
>Sure. I made that same point in the thread that was previously linked to
>from which my comments were quoted.
>
>> I recall seeing that removing a dead Z-Wave unit from the master
>> controller
>> required starting over with a clean slate. Has that been fixed?
>>
>
>It depends on which master controller. If you are using a software based
>one, or one like the one HS just announced, which is a batter powered one
>that you take around and then plug back into the PC, then they can remove a
>dead one by selecting it from a list, I'm pretty sure.



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