Re: Emergency Water Turn-Off?

["BruceR" <brNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxx>]

No, I'm a Stargate guy although I've been through Omni training and it
can do that too. I'm not really too worried about washer hose breaks now
since there's no pressure on them that could really cause a rupture.
When the washer is off the valve is closed and when it's on the water is
flowing (and we're home). I suppose a valve failure in the washer could
cause a problem if the sensor were damaged but we'd be home when that
happened. There is one thing that I didn't put in that I do have in my
other house - a pan for the washer to sit in. The pan I have is
galvanized sheet metal with a drain pipe so that any machine leakage
would stay in the pan and drain out.  Home Depot also sells a molded
plastic version complete with drain fittings.

From:Robert Green
ROBERT_GREEN1963@xxxxxxxxx

> "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>
>> I suppose you could defeat it by unplugging the leak sensor as you
>> suggest but I'm not sure why one would spend the money for the unit
>> only to disconnect the sensor.
>
> I was trying to determine which one is inherently safer.  Watching
> the "This Old House" crew pull a washer/dryer combo out of a Beacon
> Hill rowhouse closet made me wince.  I'll bet if they weren't
> careful, they could rip out any floor water sensor wires.  I think
> I'd still prefer the timer unit because it's hard to imagine too many
> scenarios where that wouldn't limit damage more than a
> current-following control.
>
> If I had a duplex unit like the one I saw on the program I would turn
> the closet into a stall shower with waterproof walls and a floor
> drain.  I've built a lot of darkrooms in my life and there's only one
> way to be sure the spills are contained - the old Sov nuke boat
> double hull.
>
> There are plenty of homes where even a 15 minute hose rupture can do
> a f_ck of a lot of damage.  We need smart water.  When it enters the
> house, each molecule is programmed to only flow to approved areas.
>
> Seriously, though.  You've done just about all you can do to prevent
> accidentally water leaks but a ruptured washing machine hose could
> still get in a few good licks before your system caught it, right?
>
>> I have two other things in place though just
>> to do a "belt & suspenders" level of protection:  stainless steel
>> braided hoses on the washer and all toilets with copper pipe to the
>> icemaker and dishwasher PLUS, a Watercop on the main line into the
>> house with sensors at the icemaker, dishwasher and washing machine.
>> The washer one is redundant but the Watercop came with 3 sensors.
>> We travel a lot and I like knowing that there's protection.
>
> Whoa, dude, that *is* about ALL the protection you can buy!  That's a
> level of preparedness that can only be explained by previous bad
> experience.
>
>> Years ago
>
> :-) I knew it!
>
>> an icemaker line broke in the middle of the night and flooded the
>> kitchen. Fortunately, it was a pinhole leak and we woke up before
>> too much damage was done. I hate to think what would have
>> happened had we been gone for several weeks!
>
> I had a blown washing machine hose (now I use braided hoses) and woke
> up to what sounded like a racehorse pissing on steel shed.  It broke
> in a starburst pattern with water spewing in every direction at once.
> That's when I got religion about water leaks.  Fortunately it was in
> an unfinished basement, so I didn't get very much religion.  But I'm
> working on it.
>
>>  BTW, the Watercop also has an output to a relay on my Stargate so I
>> get a phone call and an email if the sensors have triggered it.
>
> Too cool!  I thought you were an Omni user.  Can't that do the same
> thing?
>
> --
> Bobby G.