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Re: Unusual Challenge



On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:36:51 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
> On 10/22/2021 8:50 PM, Jim Davis wrote:=20
> > On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 4:13:26 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:=20
> >> On 10/22/2021 1:18 PM, Jim Davis wrote:=20
> >>> Re: The resistor. As I understand it, the closed circuit contact is w=
ired from ground to the trigger terminal. Without a resistor, when the swit=
ch opens, the trigger terminal just goes from negative to "float". When you=
 add the resistor, which is wired to the positive terminal when the switch =
opens, it "pulls" the trigger terminal to Positive. Which is a definite swi=
ng from negative to positive rather than to just to a float level. Changing=
 component values on the relay PCB over the years could change the sensitiv=
ity level of he trigger input making the relay output of the board a "somet=
ime" thing.=20
> >> Yes, that does make sense. The next time I am there on site I=20
> >> will install a 1K resistor just to be safe.=20
> >>=20
> >> Thanks!!=20
> >>=20
> >> Les=20
> >=20
> > Thanks to Les for forcing us to stimulate our bain snells umm - - - nam=
e spells=20
> > I mean - - - Harumph! - - - - BRAIN CELLS !=20
> > Speaking of which=20
> > The other day I discovered that I needed another audio glass break dete=
ctor in an area in a finished new construction pre-wire job. I really had t=
o strain my brain to remember how to wire the detectors to bring them back =
to the panel on two separate zones on one four wire. I knew it could be don=
e but I just went blank trying to remember how to wire it.=20
> > I blame it on the fact that I've been doing this for so long and I keep=
 putting new things in my brain and I keep losing brain cells and that caus=
es some of the old stuff to fall out the other side. I don't think there's =
any more room left up there.!
> That is very funny Jim. I was saying the same thing today when I was=20
> forced to learn a new camera system I was installing. I was telling=20
> my customer that I lost some old knowledge when the new was installed.=20
> He thought I was telling a joking. He came back with the fact that we=20
> only use 10% of our brain capacity. To which I said that my 10% is=20
> overly full and any new stuff that comes in something has to go. And=20
> once it does it can't be recalled because it is gone gone gone!!!=20
>=20
> BTW I hope you figured out the wiring scheme you were having a problem=20
> with. I prefer to just run one 4c per device and not have to try the=20
> other stuff!! :-)=20
>=20
> Have a good weekend.=20
>=20
> Les
I know, I know,=20
I always run a four wire or at least a pair to just about every opening ( e=
specially on a prewire) but I thought that one audio glass break would cove=
r the area when wired it. It's all closed up now, but when I tested the sin=
gle GB it wouldn't pick up the tester from all windows so now I have to run=
 two detectors back to the panel on a single four wire but I want them on s=
eparate zones.
I'm not sure if you are asking me how to do it or offering to tell me how t=
o do it. I finally figured it out but I had to draw it out on paper. if you=
 want to know how, let me know.
.
Problem is, now that I've re-learned that, I wont know till next time I hav=
e another problem that I can't figure out what it is that I've "un-learned"=
, - - - - because I think I'm only working with about 8% of my bran smells =
now.=20
.
Tell me Les Please tell me that sometimes you hear things rattling around u=
p there. Don't you Les? Huh? Don't you?


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