Re: Any skilled residential installers in New River, AZ area?

[Robert Macy <robert.a.macy@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 21, 5:56=A0pm, JoeRaisin <joeraisin2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 1/21/2012 4:38 PM, Just Looking wrote:
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> >> Not sure why you think I would not "...even recognize..." a skilled
> >> installer, though.
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> > A skilled installer would generally migrate to a higher paid position. =
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> > always think of residential installers in the alarm trade as being at
> > the lower end of the skill spectrum. Even companies like ADT manage
> > their sales and installations staff in a tiered fashion of compensation
> > where residential is at the bottom of the food chain. When I think of a
> > skilled CCTV installer I think of one that could not only install but
> > configure many types of CCTV systems; like ones with hosted video
> > recording and a different CIF and frame rate not only for each camera,
> > but each storage "bucket". The installer could calculate the necessary
> > retention time for a NAS or SAN and configure same into an network. The
> > installer would recognize and be able to configure a layer 2 or 3 switc=
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> > or carve out his own VLAN. The installer would be able to set up
> > analytics on each camera or encoder or separate analytics server,
> > including all inputs, outputs for any metadata, not to mention linking
> > the video to the access control system or POS system.
> > What you seem to be looking for is not a skilled installer and probably
> > would not have need of one if your market target is 4 residential camer=
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> Ya know, that's one of the thing about this industry that sort of ticks
> me off.
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> There's more to skill than being able to program
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> When it comes to running/fishing wire, at least, IMHO residential
> requires much more skill... well... for those that aren't hacks.
> Problem is, the guys that prove they give a shit end up doing commercial
> and the new guys are on the resi jobs stapling the keypad wire down the
> wall and drilling straight down through the baseboard.
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> I know guys who can make a dvr or card access panel dance a friggin
> rumba while integrating everything with the fire and BA - but they
> couldn't run a wire between their elbow and their shoulder without it
> looking like holy crap.
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> Too much of the resi market is slapping up wireless with double sided
> tape and pluggin the Lynx into the phone jack so they can get out of
> there and go screw up someone else's drywall.
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> Where I am now, we haven't done any resi (tho that may change) but the
> last place had the policy that if it looked like a fish was gonna take
> more than ten or twenty minutes, go wireless.
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> At the satellite place, they didn't want us to fish anything.
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> That just takes a lot of the fun and challenge out of the job - I know,
> my way takes a lot of the money out of it. =A0But if I had been anything
> other than an abject failure at drumming up work, that's how I would
> have done it.
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> To me - nothing better than a clean install - and that, imho, takes skill=
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EXACTLY!

And, THAT is the skill set I'm looking for!

I can connect. I can program. I can set it up. I can even envision how
to install, but the 'mechanics' [to me] to do it right, require a lot
of SKILL.