Re: Automatic fire sprinklers

[jamesgangnc <jamesgangnc@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 12, 1:37=A0pm, Tom Horne <horn...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 11:31=A0am, jamesgangnc <jamesgan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jan 12, 10:25=A0am, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > In article <5qednQCgQrTCWbDQnZ2dnUVZ_oidn...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > =A0"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > "Shaun Eli" <missingch...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote .>
> > > > > It's a pretty small cost to add sprinklers to new construction. F=
ires
> > > > > are rare but they're expensive as hell. And you can rebuild a hou=
se;
> > > > > you can't rebuild a burned-to-death person.
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> > > > I'd like to see if they really save lives. =A0How many people are k=
illed by
> > > > smoke inhalation before a sprinkler would activate? =A0I'm thinking=
 of a
> > > > smoldering sofa or mattress that can kill you long before a flame g=
ets hot
> > > > enough to set off a sprinkler head. =A0 In the case of a heater fir=
es, it may
> > > > make a difference as the fire is in another area of the house.
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> > > =A0 According to the NFPA records there has never been a multiple fat=
ality
> > > fire in the US. Their records go back to around 1900. Most of the
> > > fatalities have been things like smoking in bed where the smoker was
> > > cooked, but nobody else, which would seem to answer your question. Th=
is
> > > includes hotels, nursing homes, hospitals, etc., in addition to
> > > residences.
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> > > > As for property damage, it does save fire damage, but can replace i=
t with
> > > > water damage.
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> > > > I'm not for or against, I just want to see more facts before decidi=
ng.
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> > > --
> > > "Even I realized that money was to politicians what the ecalyptus tre=
e is to koala bears: food, water, shelter and something to crap on."
> > > =A0---PJ O'Rourke
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> > I've seen multiple fatality fires just here in the local news in NC so
> > something is wrong with your source.
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> James
> Are you saying that you can identify a specific instance of a multiple
> fatality fire in a property that is protected by a complete automatic
> fire sprinkler system. =A0A yes or no answer would be appreciated.
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I'm not saying that at all.  I don't know one way or another.  The
original post, below, says nothing about the presence or absence of a
sprinkler system.  It just says there are no records of multiple
deaths.  I'm guessing now the intention was to say in locations with
sprinklers but that's not in the post.

> >   According to the NFPA records there has never been a multiple fatalit=
y
> > fire in the US. Their records go back to around 1900. Most of the
> > fatalities have been things like smoking in bed where the smoker was