Re: Moose/Sentol

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sep 28, 7:39=A0am, "Petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Sep 27, 5:17 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Sep 27, 12:56 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> > On Sep 27, 9:30 am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> > > On Sep 26, 3:07 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> > > > On Sep 26, 12:19 am, Nicholas Markowicz <nmarkowic...@xxxxxxxxx>
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> >> > > =A0I guess the saying is true .... If you tell a lie often
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> >> > > > enough, it eventually becomes the truth.
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> >> > > RHC: Hey !! That's how the gun haters manage to pass laws didn't y=
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> >> > > know. That's how they managed to dupe the public into keeping the
> >> > > long
> >> > > gun registry up here in Canada.
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> >> > I just read something about the registry up your way. Isn't it up fo=
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> >> > a final vote. Or did that happen already?
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> >> That is ..... final vote to do away with the registry.
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> > RHC: No, the Private Members bill to do away with the long gun
> > registry was NOT passed. A lot of back room arm twisting by the
> > Liberals (Democrats), and a lot of lies by the anti-gunner groups,
> > misrepresentation of statistics, loads of tearful pleas by the
> > relations of the women shot during the Dawson college massacre, turned
> > enough gutless =A0MP's to keep the registry 153 votes to 151.
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> > I've never seen such a miserable display of lies, misrepresented
> > statistics, and partisan politics in my life. This has only
> > strengthened the resolve of gun owners to make a major election issue
> > of this next time around. The Conservative government (like your
> > Republicans) is firm in their resolve to get rid of this "white
> > elephant" but it may or may not happen after the next election. If the
> > Conservatives get in with a majority government, they will have the
> > voting power to get rid of it for good. If the left wing Liberals get
> > in, not only will we have the continuation of this very dangerous
> > piece of legislation , but they have sworn to ban all handguns and
> > semi-automatic firearms as well (the lack of real logic on this simply
> > boggles the mind....)
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> > The long gun registry is ONLY there to ensure that some future
> > government will have the ultimate ability to ban all firearms from the
> > hands of law abiding people !! This is one of the stated goals of the
> > UN. The anti-gunners are not intellectually honest enough to admit
> > this, but I've been in this business long enough to know it's true.
> > And even if it weren't their intent, why would politicians leave gun
> > owners in a position where some future government can do this on a
> > whim.
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> > Look at England and Australia if you don't believe confiscation CAN
> > happen. Politicians simply can't be trusted to vote with reason when
> > emotion sways voters right or wrong. The Conservative government will
> > now have millions of gun owners voting for them, and raising funds for
> > them, based on this issue alone. I, like millions of other gun owners,
> > am now a criminal by dint of the fact that my paperwork is not
> > complete, and all my firearms are now subject to confiscation with no
> > compensation whatsoever, AND the police have the legal power to enter
> > my home WITHOUT A WARRANT on suspicion only that there are
> > unregistered firearms present.
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> > Any one who doesn't see this as dangerous legislation is simply an
> > idiot !!
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> I am a hunter that have guns.. and I dont care about the registry...
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> there is no reason to fear it.. but I know that the problem here is not w=
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> the long guns, its with the owner, and having a registry of the OWNER of
> long guns is not useless..

RHC: As usual, you are way off the mark. There is every reason to fear
the registry because of it's sweeping powers for search and seize
without a warrant. Before you spout off, read the bloody Firearms
Act.

For the purposes of policing, it is redundant, since the PAL owner
licensing (which is good and useful legislation) does the same thing.
However, that is NOT the issue here and never has been !  Nor would
any police office rely on a registry to know if there are guns in the
home since it is riddled with inaccuracy and non compliance. Any cop
that relies on this nonsense is going into harms way without being
prepared since the non presence of a gun in the registry doesn't mean
there is not one in the home.

It's gun owners like you that contribute to the problem since you go
along naively believing the government is working in your best
efforts. Look at the history of gun control in Canada; listen to the
last election speeches where candidates spouted to "ban all handguns
in Canada". As gun owners, we hang together or we hang
separately...after they get mine, they'll come for yours....its called
divide and conquer !!  We don't ever want to allow them those
powers !!

 I wonder why it is that Quebec MP's all voted for the registry and
that gun control is so acceptable to Quebec voters