Re: DMP Who?

[jackcsg <jackcsc@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Oct 20, 10:29=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Oct 20, 5:31=A0pm, jackcsg <jack...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Oct 20, 11:50=A0am, "Bob La Londe" <onebike...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > "jackcsg" <jack...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > On Oct 19, 12:35 am, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >> On Oct 18, 7:05 pm, "Russell Brill" <russwbr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wro=
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> > > >> > "jackcsg" <jack...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > >> > On Oct 8, 9:08 pm, "Russell Brill" <russwbr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wr=
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> > > >> > > I wonder if DMP knows there products are being sold online??? =
Check
> > > >> > > this
> > > >> > > outhttp://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-1574-xtl-kit-dmp-wireles=
s-alarm-ki...
> > > >> > > ... Next summer the door-to-door kids will probably be selling=
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> > > >> > > installing it, smooth move DMP, there's nothing like selling y=
our
> > > >> > > crap in
> > > >> > > K-Mart..........
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> > > >> > I saw that a few weeks ago. Weird.
> > > >> > What happened Russ, I thought you were using DMP?
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> > > >> > Nope, they would never talk to me... They claim to have some exc=
lusive
> > > >> > agreement with another company in the Sacramento area... If I wa=
nt to
> > > >> > install their stuff, I guess I'll just have to order off of E-Ba=
y or
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> > > >> > the Home Security Store........ So much for their exclusive agre=
ement,
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> > > >> > homeowner in Sac can buy it off the Internet, but the local alar=
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> > > >> > dealers
> > > >> > can't buy it from DMP... I'll stick with Honeywell for now......
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> > > >> I guess I would understand that marketing concept if the product w=
as a
> > > >> major step up from all the others but from what I've seen it isn't
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> > > > I think in the low end residential market; that's a fair statement.
> > > > However, in the Commercial Arena: nothing can touch it. (XR-500N)
> > > > I did two Vista 21IP Installs about a week ago; nice little panel.
> > > > I'm still fond of things "Made in the USA".
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> > > What's special about the XR-500N?
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> > I just did 5 large production plants out in Indiana. Access Control,
> > Fire, Security, IP Door Intercoms, plant wide paging (with voice
> > announcement of each event)(40 preprogrammed messages), Network
> > Cameras, and NVR, all functioning in harmony with an XR-500N. Inputs
> > and Outputs; nothing else compares. All controlled remotely through an
> > Internet connection; and locally through software. The largest plant I
> > did has 370 points, and I'm using around 160 outputs off the panel.
> > Trust me; it's special...-
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> Long time ago (70's) , in another life, I used to spec jobs like that,
> mostly fire and securty, as access control didn't exist. Equipment was
> a lot, LOT less sophisticated than now, of course. No electronics, all
> relays. =A0I enjoyed the research, drawing and lay out part of those
> jobs, but dealing with the unions, and management people was the hard
> work ( for me, anyway) Just never could get past taking the uneducated
> criticisim of those jerks personal.
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> We only had exposed bells for fire systems back then, no horns or
> strobes. The all time dumbest question I think I was ever asked
> was .... do the bells come in different colors?

It's funny because one the leading components of the sale, was the
ability to announce which door a visitor was at. The guys were
ordering food late at night, and the delivery person had a hard time
communicating they were on site.
It's also funny you mention fire bells; I was just at a home that had
a sprinkler system, and the homeowner planted ivy which grew up all
around the bell, and basically rendered it useless. She said she did
that because it was red and ugly. The previous alarm company ran a
wire to the flow and tamper, but never tied it in. It's been that way
for 5 years.
Most of the Plants I did, stole the 110 of the sprinkler circuit, to
place outlets near the risers so they could put heat strips on the
pipes so they wouldn't freeze.
One plant had 17 risers; with virtually no notification. Priceless.
Most of them had no tampers on the shut off valves as well. Of which
about half were closed.
Job security...