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[Frank Olson <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim wrote:
> On Jul 10, 12:43�am, Frank Olson
>
>> I actually voted Conservative the last time around.
>
> I can understan that. I too would be ashamed to admit to your idea of
> what you think this world and society is all about.
>
>>
> Lookie Frank. Your a fucking liberal asshole. I'm not going to waste
> my time and everyone elses here, by debating these issues with someone
> the likes of you. You're a candy ass pacifist who has evolved into a
> being without a defense mechanism.

Well it seems we disagree on a lot of things.  I don't believe killing
someone ever solved anything.  The US is faced with that on a daily
basis in Iraq.  100's of thousands of Iraqis have paid the ultimate
price and yet the insurgency goes on.  Someone has to put a stop to it.
  Someone has to sit down and negotiate a peace.  I don't think more
violence is going to solve the problem.  Of course, we could just nuke
the place...


> Look up the story of the Eloi.

I'm familiar with it...  Comparing me to a "sheep" without knowing me is
about as intelligent as a response as I've come to expect in this
newsgroup (from a core of people that includes all the regulars).


> You
> can't or refuse to see the danger in reality and live in the world of
> La La. Fine.

I see "danger" everywhere, and like you, I avoid those areas and
situations...


> You can just stay where you are and let the people who
> live in the real world do all the work for you.

I think you'll find that the "real world" needs more than just a few
"real voices".  You can't find justice at the end of a gun.


> You can continue to
> depend on legends, visions of apparitions and ghosts to be your
> guiding light and the rest of us will take care of what you can't or
> are too much a coward to deal with.

Whoa, buddy.  I'm sure many would view a "conscientious objector" as "a
coward".  I, on the other hand would say it takes guts to stand up
before someone and say:  "No, I won't kill that person."



> Contrary to what you believe, people are NOT equal.

To me, they *are* unless they prove themselves otherwise.  I believe
everyone should have the benefit of the doubt.  It's what our entire
legal justice system is based upon and what my Father (and his Father)
fought to defend.  They didn't fight so that a "chosen few" could decide
to invade another sovereign country "on a whim".


> It's nice to say
> and to think that ..... but it's not true. Some are less equal and
> deserve to be treated just that way. The law and Constitution is the
> written idealistic world and doesn't allow for the reality of society
> and humanity.

The law and the Constitution forms the basis of everything that we are.
  A "free and enlightened" society.  The "Bushwacker's" have you
completely brain-washed, don't they?  You've gone over to the "Dark Side".


> And yes, I walk with "my finger on the trigger" all the
> time. It's a way of life. It's not paranoia

Thank God for our gun laws.  When I think of some of the hair-brained,
hair trigger idiots running around south of the border (and all of them
"packin'") I shudder.


> .... it's just simply
> being aware, conscious and alert. Because that's what I believe has
> kept me and mine safe so far.

It's just simply a matter of having a "frontier" mentality...  Shoot
first and ask questions later...


> I don't go to places that are
> dangerous, just because I have the "right" to be there.

Neither do I.


> I don't do
> things that are dangerous or possible threats, without first
> calculating what the risks are of something happening.

Check!


> But YOU can
> continue to feel safe and secure in La La, in knowing that in one of
> these mass shooting incidents ..... I would be the one who was armed
> to stop it.

Ummmm....  We don't have "mass shooting incidents" here (at least
there's never been one in British Columbia).


> and you wouldn't.

Are you kidding me?  You really would "shoot first", wouldn't you??


> I watch my rear view mirror at all
> times ..... and not just for cars ..... it's the way reality is.

Same here...


>
> The rule to survival is to be aware of your surroundings at all times
> and always take steps to avoid conflict.

That's a good "rule".  It's also one we both live by.


> But if it comes, you'd damn
> well better be ready for it and use every advantage that you have and
> can muster to survive.

Check...  I'd lay out the guy for the cops to corral.


> However, there are definite lines one must
> draw. You can't avoid conflict at the expense of your self esteem/
> honor.

On the contrary, my "honour" frequently gets me into "conflicts".


> There ARE no excuses and if/ when it comes down to it, I'll err
> in MY favor.

Well, let's hope it never comes down to it, eh?


> You defeat your advisary so that they will not return.

You defeat your adversary "your way", and I'll just make sure he's not
going to be able to wield anything more powerful than a soda straw which
he'll have to drink through for the rest of his life.


> Apply that to todays world situation and in short order, things would
> be just like your La La land.

Sure, Jim...  You can start any time now...  When is it you're going to
be finished "mopping up" in Iraq??


> I think one of Ben Franklins quotes is
> "The tree of Freedom occasionally needs to be watered with the blood
> of Tyrants and Patriots"  Not with the words of cowards, negotiators
> and prayers.

Ben had a lot of good sayings, and sage advice.  I'm saving a lot of
pennies for one...  However...  I've yet to meet a "negotiator" that's a
"coward".  And I don't see how a little prayer now and then could
possibly make a bad situation worse.


>
> You and yours will continue to bleed the life blood from society until
> the reality hits us again. Then, hopefully the courage to do what is
> necessary will prevail in those who remain.

Yeah...  Kill 'em all...  Let's nuke the bastards...



> In the mean time, you can continue to live in La La.
> You really should learn to like Cool Aid, Frank.
> I mean ..... it fits you so well.

Nahhh....  I'd still prefer a tall cold mug of Koenig Ludwig Weissbier.