Re: 3 Wire Smokes?

["Robert L Bass" <no-sales-spam@bassburglaralarms>]

> That depends on whether or not the
> system activates early enough to
> prevent an actual flame from developing.

It's still not preventing fire.

>> I would say the percentage is less
>> than that of burglaries which a
>> burglar alarm prevents.
>
> Does a burglar alarm actually "prevent"
> a burglary?

Occasionally, yes.

> If you believe in the "hype" that's frequently
> presented in radio advertisements, perhaps.

I don't believe the BS ads from ADT, Brinks,
etc.  However, we all know of cases where the
thief left without entering because the alarm
sounded.  There exists statistical evidence
as well which suggests that some thieves
try to select homes without alarms.  To
whatever extent that is true there are cases
where a specific burglary has been avoided
because of the alarms system.

> If *you* say it often enough, maybe...

I've probably mentioned it here before but
not often.  In fact, I consider many professional
alarm installations inadequate at best.

> Most of us take steps beyond the
> installation of a burglar alarm, though.

Yes.  You *walk* to your van, drive off and
*run* to the bank with the first RMR check.

> You just sell "parts" so you
> wouldn't be aware of all this.

My average system sale is far more
comprehensive than anything someone like
you is likely to install.

>> Think about it for a minute
>> (Cracker will need several days).  It's safe to
>> say that some thieves decide not to burglarise
>> a particular place because there's an alarm.
>> A certain percentage stop and retreat upon
>> hearing the alarm.
>>
>> Fire neither knows nor cares if there's an
>> alarm.  It consumes whatever it can,
>> regardless of the existence or activation of
>> a fire alarm.
>
> Not necessarily.  If you can prevent a fire
> from developing into a full fledged
> conflagration (through early detection),
> then you'll minimize the damge to property
> and the risk to life.

It would be very nice if most professional
fire alarms would do that.

>> Certainly suppression systems can well,
>> suppress a fire but in most cases the
>> suppression system activates the fire alarm
>> -- not the other way around.  Even an Ansul
>> system is usually activated by heat rather
>> than an alarm system.
>
> Then you know nothing about the fixed
> supupression systems that employ
> agents lilke Halon 1301, CO2...

Wrong again (as usual).  Those are the
exception.  *Most* fire alarm installations
do not include automatic release of anything
but the interior door holders.

> --- snip blather ---

> The point is that if you can detect the fire

If you have detected a fire you have not prevented it.  You may be able to deal with it sooner but you have not prevented a fire.
Perhaps a remedial reading course would help you out.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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