Re: 3 Wire Smokes?

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

My 2 cents.
>> There's no such thing as a fire prevention
>> company.

If you compare and contrast futures of a typical burglar alarm system versus
a typical fire alarm system, and the words detection versus prevention, I
think prevention is more valid for fire alarm systems.
Other than say a man trap on an access control system there is little
"prevention" offered form a burglar alarm system, mostly it is for
detection.  A fire alarm system can not only detect fire, it can offer
"prevention" of sorts. A fire alarm system can be designed to close doors
(like in nursing homes and hospitals), close dampers, turn off air handlers,
recall elevators, and even activate fire suppression systems like Ansul or
other chemical fire retardant chemicals in a computer room, or
communications closet for example. Although that might not "prevent" the
actual fire from starting, it can help to slow or even "prevent" the fire
from spreading. How fine a point you want to put on prevention is up to the
individual to decide.

"FIRETEK" <firetech(change-the-ch-to-k)@telus.net> wrote in message
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> In line:
>
>
> "Robert L Bass" <no-sales-spam@bassburglaralarms> wrote in message
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>> > Unlike security alarm installers and service
>> > techs, fire prevention companies...
>>
>> There's no such thing as a fire prevention
>> company.
>
> Quick.  You better call up:
>
> Fairlane Fire Prevention Ltd. and Vancouver Fire Prevention Co. Ltd. to
> tell
> them they "don't exist".
>
>>
>> > Property managers that employ our
>> > services often request we test the
>> > in-suite smoke alarms.  When they
>> > don't work (or the resident disconnects
>> > them because they're always falsing)...
>>
>> Hmm.  Who would want to hire a company
>> whose products fail so miserably?
>
> I dunno.  The last guy said he purchased them "online" and couldn't get
> the
> vendor to respond.  Something about the email not working and some problem
> with a phone in Brazil.
>
>
>>
>> > we replace them.  We've had good
>> > success with the Firex product line...
>>
>> I can understand the "success" you have.
>> Firex is one of the cheapest brands on the
>> market.
>
> Really?  I don't see you "suggesting" an alternative.
>
>>  By constantly replacing them the
>> dealer can make a bundle.
>
> Actually the only one we've had to replace was defective out of the box.
> We
> provided an "advance replacement" on the spot.  Can your service "beat"
> three minutes?
>
>> Unfortunately,
>> the customer gets jiminexed having to pay
>> exorbitant service call charges plus
>> having to pay to replace the junk detectors
>> because, as this character admits, they are
>> always falsing.
>
> Ummm...  We're there to perform the annual test on the fire alarm system.
> Replacing defective smoke alarms is part of the service.  The client is
> billed for the cost of the detector which includes a "modest 35 percent
> markup".
>
>