Re: Per Hour Charge

["rqo" <safetyo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks to all for the information I've read so far.

The local installers in my area, are all over the price map on this one.  I
felt that the internet and this newsgroup in particular would be the best
source for information.

rqo

"Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "rqo" <safetyo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> I'm curious as to the average "per hour" charge on a CCTV install?  Is
>>> it by the individual job or is it by the complexity, etc.?
>>>
>>> Is that a legitimate question to ask an installer, "How much do you
>>> charge per hour?", or is that just too open ended a question.
>>>
>>> My reasons for asking are for my own knowledge.  After internet searches
>>> on most "per hour" occupations, this one shows up as anywhere from $15
>>> to $40 per hour.  Is that about average for an installer?
>>>
>>> Is there a different charge just to run cable?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> rqo
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>> It would strongly depend on the market.  I have always charged very well
>> and used nothing, but top quality equipment.  As a result I could pay a
>> very competant and profficent installer quite well.  Unfortunately I have
>> been losing jobs to cut rate installers.  Installing cheap equipment to
>> lesser standards and rushing through the jobs.  I am faced with a choice.
>> Do the same, or don't get the jobs.  If I do the same I can't afford to
>> pay on the high end of the scale.
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>> I do have a few clients who are willing to pay my going rate and use the
>> equipment I reccomend because they have some knowledge and experience
>> with me and my installs.  They KNOW my stuff works.  However its pretty
>> darned difficult to build a business and train technicians, either new or
>> experienced, to do good work on one job and barely works work on another.
>>
>> I would imagine there aren't many companies in the world paying $40 an
>> hour to an installer.  I got offered a little around $35 once several
>> years ago as a complete system integrator and designer, but not as an
>> installer. Basically that is for somebody who can design and troubleshoot
>> from memory and knowledge on-site and on-the-fly.  A person who can keep
>> the big picture of large jobs in focus in the background while tracking
>> every little detail of how and why up close on the task at hand.  There
>> might be a few that make a little more, but not very darned many.  I
>> decided I could keep doing that for myself and in the end I will own it
>> all instead of doing it for somebody else.
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>> Realistically an "installer" probably won't make more than $16-$20 / hr
>> and then only if they are very good, very fast, don't make a
>> statistically significant number of mistkaes, and fix their own mistakes
>> usually before anybody else even notices.  For the avergae puke the range
>> is probably more like $11-16 with the high end being what he is worth
>> with atleast a couple years experience.  JMHO.
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> As to what to charge.  I caculate the job out with a spreadsheet per
> device and cable run and then charge $75 per hour with a fudge factor of
> about 10%. I will be raising my hourly rate the 1st of the year.  Probably
> only to about $80.  Just enough to cover the increase in insurnace and
> fuel I've had to live with for the last year.  I calculate all jobs based
> on that rate except if I have to do actual networking.  I double my time
> for that part of the jobs so I can deal with paranoid IT professionals.
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