Re: ADT Contract Language help.

[canyonblue@xxxxxxxxx]

secure15 wrote:
> canyonblue@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > To make a long story short (see my other recent posts) I am *likely* to
> > go with ADT Corporate for an extensive residential system. The main
> > reason besides overall cost is they have agreed to write in the
> > contract that the system is NOT a lease and will be owned from DAY 1.
> > Further they agree to write in the contract that at the end of the
> > contract term (3 years) they will provide free of charge to appropriate
> > master codes allowing the main Safewatch Pro 3000 box to be used by any
> > independent installer.
> >
> > Since I don't know the technology lingo, how should the language read
> > in your more professional opinions to make sure that I don't have
> > issues 3 years from now if I want to switch to other monitoring without
> > equipment changes? Is "master code" the appropriate term or what?
> >
> > Thanks, if they don't get the language right I will likely go to an
> > independent at over a $750+ premium, but if they give the way out I
> > don't think I can pass them up.
> >
> Go hire a lawyer.
>   Perhaps an Alarm Contract expert-
>   Maybe the Likes of Ken Kirshenbaum.
> Or maybe you just like to troll here for "Free" info from guys who make
> an honest living at it and CAN do some creative work by using their
> heads, unlike your "likely" future Company whom many of us wouldn't let
> wipe our cats litter box out, let alone do ANY work in our homes.
>
> BTW- How come you always come here for answers?- Doesn't your
> "likely" Contractor make you feel absolutely comfortable with ITS
> answers? If I had that many unanswered questions and were that
> uncomfortable and unsure, I would be going out looking for MORE quotes.
>
> I'm sure you will answer by- "I'm just making sure" or "I'm comparing".
> There are tons of us who go out and quote jobs and specs to customers
> just like you, who DEMAND that we give you free quotes, drop the price,
> give me something for free, throw this in, give me a detailed diagram
> and quote, the other guy said....., - then we never here from you or you
> jerk us around for a month- only later do we find you use EVERY DETAIL
> of the design to let another Company "Give you a better price".
>
> In case you don't know- many are here to make a living and support our
> families- we're not the "Governmemt Free Cheese Program"! I,for one am
> HAPPY to see you go with ADT- you both are a PERFECT fit! I wouldn't
> waste a minute with you for nickle-and-diming a $3300.00 job, when I can
> deal with professionals in Fire Installations and make 15 Times that!
>
> To Quote Kenny Rodgers: "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to
> fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to RUN"!
> Many here have the knowledge, experience, expertise, and common sense to
> read a good hand and have a fast pair of legs!

Let me just say sorry guys.

My experience with forums in the past is *end users* trading
information. It seems that is forum is actually *installers* trading
information, and specifically installers that dislike ADT.

I don't think I was unreasonable requesting information on how to get
the best alarm system, contract, etc. from a group called
"alt.security.alarms" no matter who it was from Brinks, ADT, or smaller
independent. I am sure your reaction would have been different had I
phrased all of this as if the company I was dealing with was not ADT.
None of this is any different than how I have posted to a garden forum
asking what the best self-propelled lawn mower is and how I can get the
best deal on it including warranty service.

Again sorry, I just assumed the group here was folks like me trading
information on their systems, instead I found a group of installers who
don't work and don't like ADT so are willing to bash the poor guy who
dares ask a question about their services.

I kindly step out, good day.