Re: ADT Contract Language help.

["Ranger" <a@xxxxx>]

Another Bass clone bites it
<canyonblue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> secure15 wrote:
>> canyonblue@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > To make a long story short (see my other recent posts) I am *likely* to
>> > go with ADT Corporate for an extensive residential system. The main
>> > reason besides overall cost is they have agreed to write in the
>> > contract that the system is NOT a lease and will be owned from DAY 1.
>> > Further they agree to write in the contract that at the end of the
>> > contract term (3 years) they will provide free of charge to appropriate
>> > master codes allowing the main Safewatch Pro 3000 box to be used by any
>> > independent installer.
>> >
>> > Since I don't know the technology lingo, how should the language read
>> > in your more professional opinions to make sure that I don't have
>> > issues 3 years from now if I want to switch to other monitoring without
>> > equipment changes? Is "master code" the appropriate term or what?
>> >
>> > Thanks, if they don't get the language right I will likely go to an
>> > independent at over a $750+ premium, but if they give the way out I
>> > don't think I can pass them up.
>> >
>> Go hire a lawyer.
>>   Perhaps an Alarm Contract expert-
>>   Maybe the Likes of Ken Kirshenbaum.
>> Or maybe you just like to troll here for "Free" info from guys who make
>> an honest living at it and CAN do some creative work by using their
>> heads, unlike your "likely" future Company whom many of us wouldn't let
>> wipe our cats litter box out, let alone do ANY work in our homes.
>>
>> BTW- How come you always come here for answers?- Doesn't your
>> "likely" Contractor make you feel absolutely comfortable with ITS
>> answers? If I had that many unanswered questions and were that
>> uncomfortable and unsure, I would be going out looking for MORE quotes.
>>
>> I'm sure you will answer by- "I'm just making sure" or "I'm comparing".
>> There are tons of us who go out and quote jobs and specs to customers
>> just like you, who DEMAND that we give you free quotes, drop the price,
>> give me something for free, throw this in, give me a detailed diagram
>> and quote, the other guy said....., - then we never here from you or you
>> jerk us around for a month- only later do we find you use EVERY DETAIL
>> of the design to let another Company "Give you a better price".
>>
>> In case you don't know- many are here to make a living and support our
>> families- we're not the "Governmemt Free Cheese Program"! I,for one am
>> HAPPY to see you go with ADT- you both are a PERFECT fit! I wouldn't
>> waste a minute with you for nickle-and-diming a $3300.00 job, when I can
>> deal with professionals in Fire Installations and make 15 Times that!
>>
>> To Quote Kenny Rodgers: "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to
>> fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to RUN"!
>> Many here have the knowledge, experience, expertise, and common sense to
>> read a good hand and have a fast pair of legs!
>
> Let me just say sorry guys.
>
> My experience with forums in the past is *end users* trading
> information. It seems that is forum is actually *installers* trading
> information, and specifically installers that dislike ADT.
>
> I don't think I was unreasonable requesting information on how to get
> the best alarm system, contract, etc. from a group called
> "alt.security.alarms" no matter who it was from Brinks, ADT, or smaller
> independent. I am sure your reaction would have been different had I
> phrased all of this as if the company I was dealing with was not ADT.
> None of this is any different than how I have posted to a garden forum
> asking what the best self-propelled lawn mower is and how I can get the
> best deal on it including warranty service.
>
> Again sorry, I just assumed the group here was folks like me trading
> information on their systems, instead I found a group of installers who
> don't work and don't like ADT so are willing to bash the poor guy who
> dares ask a question about their services.
>
> I kindly step out, good day.
>