Re: Looking for a basic alarm system

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I stopped counting in binary when I removed the last Napco 800 (I still have
the stupid programmer). My point is this is 2006 there's absolutely no
reason we should be adding/programming with binary/hex or whatever...its
dumb.

IMO a panel should be easy to program fully from the keypad in english (or
some semblence of english or alarmlish).

I've never had any real probs with Napco on the ones I have though. Dunno
what panel I'd like to eval. since I don't keep up with their stuff. My
basic panels are the Vista 10P, 20P for anything bigger I go with another
product.


"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > They were all take overs, so the struggle to program them didn't endear
me
| > to want to continue using the product. Maybe one day Napco will send me
a
| > evaluation panel for me to play with :-)
| >
| What kind of panel would you be interested in evaluating? I'm sure
| they'd be willing to send you something if they were asked. ( I could
| ask if you don't want to)
|
| As you can surmise, the programing is just "different" not actually
| difficult. If you you can grasp the concept of counting in binary ( if
| you don't know how, it's very simple, once it's explained) then Napco
| programing becomes very simple to understand. With a laptop it's no
| problem whatsoever. The best thing about Napco is that it gives you a
| versatility to do just about anything you'd ever be asked to do by a
| client. Obviously, you don't always need to do "everything" but it's a
| great feeling of confidence to know that pretty much anything a client
| may come up with, you can do it. I've been using it since the 80's.
| Pretty rock solid, in my opinion. In recent years they've tried to
| simplify the programing, especially in the low end panels ( which I
| don't use). It seems to be a tendency in the industry to reduce
| programing complexity down to the level of a three year old. In my
| opinion, I think that it's an effort to keep up with the downward slide
| of  competence in what passes for installers nowdays.
|
| When ever I go to do a service call on an older system for someone,
| who's not already my client, the guy before me has usually told them
| the system should be replaced. Only because they don't want to "work"
| on programing. That's another thing I've noticed too. Since I can
| program Napco, there's not a panel out there that I've come across,
| that I can't comprehend the programing in a relatively short time. I
| think that if someone has only ever experienced programing simply
| programed panels, it seems that their comprehension of other panels
| programing is never developed.
|
| Just an observation.
|