Re: 5540 Silent Knight Software Question

["petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

bill you will need a phone line simulator to do what you want

as a teacher ( i train other tech at night in a school for adult as a second
job)i use such a device..(got it from ebay at 50.00 us)

its is a real telco CO in a box.. mine have 4 line and all line can call any
of the other line, it will even generate a ring signal at the selected
called line

mine was sold by black box

http://www.telephonetribute.com/telco_line_simulators.html

heres the first link that i found on such a device on google you could
easily find a similar device somewhere for sale at a good price..

when i dont use it in my training seminar i use it at home as a small
intercom system..(all my telephone can use 2 phone line..the first line is
my normal phone line from the telco..and all the second line are different
extention from the phone line simulator and i programmed the box so that all
4 extention to ring on the dialled number 101 to 104...


"Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
432c23e6$0$13504$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> The 5530 modem would communicate with the panel if the panel was calling
> the modem over the phone line.
> The 5540 software would read the data the panel is sending and put it in
> the list.
> It would show up as an account that was not scheduled to call.
> Then I could select this account from the list and tell the software: the
> next time this panel calls -
> upload the eeprom to this computer.
> The only issue I am having is that I am trying to connect the panel to the
> modem straight without going over the phone line.
> If the panel is programmed to dial without waiting for dial tone then the
> only issue would be will the modem pick up the tones the
> panel is sending. Since this modem is designed specifically for
> programming this panel it stands to reason it will work.
> I know I can call the panel and download into the panel directly, but this
> would wipe out all existing programming.
> This is what I want to avoid.
> I am going to try and read the DTMF phone number the panel is calling.
> Does the panel transmit it's account # in DTMF as well?
>
> Bill
>
> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:QbydnXvVL7oG9rbeRVn-pA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> No. Sorry for the misleading answer.
>> Receivers typically issue the ack tones in DTMF, some FSK, a few BFSK,
>> and
>> SDLC.
>> Most downloading software uses modems to communicate to the panel in an
>> FSK
>> (Modem) format. What Bill is trying to do won't, or should I say,
>> shouldn't
>> work.
>> CID is a DTMF (Touch Tone) format, not FSK.
>>
>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:WYIWe.20$v93.1313@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> So you think it will dump data on ack to the programming software?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it's work with Compass unless the csid or account numbers
>>> match. I know it won't work with Remote Link either...of course I dunno
>> much
>>> abt Silent Knight.
>>> ===
>>> OH...btw...do NOT connect battery leads backwards on an XR20 even for a
>>> nanosecond :-(...I think you guys put a curse on me last week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:04CdnYg_kfTXzLbenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | It will. It's looking for "Ack" tones, not FSK modem tones.
>>> |
>>> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> | news:rcIWe.11$8x5.1072@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > I think he's trying to hack into a panel with programming software
>>> so
>> he
>>> | can
>>> | > pull out the account number so that he can reprogram it...I doubt he
>>> will
>>> | > get it to work...at least that's my take on it.
>>> | >
>>> | > I don't think he's gonna be able to trap the panel to extract the
>>> passcode
>>> | > or lockcode or account number I believe it's gonna just hangup on
>>> the
>>> | > software.
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > "mikey" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> | > news:eLidnRjoGMq3p7beRVn-hQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | Get what to work? You mean you guys understand what the heck he's
>>> trying
>>> | > to
>>> | > | do. I'm lost.
>>> | > |
>>> | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> | > | news:kVBWe.5$8x5.768@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | > I doubt you will get it to work.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > You may want to try a dial tone simulator between the panel and
>> the
>>> | > | > software.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > "Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> | > | > news:432ab8d6$0$13562$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | > | Yes, I am trying to do an upload, but I need to know the
>>> account
>>> | > number
>>> | > | to
>>> | > | > | request an upload.
>>> | > | > | I don't have the account number.  The software will accept
>>> calls
>>> | from
>>> | > | any
>>> | > | > | panel and log the alarm.
>>> | > | > | If I can get it to connect then it would log the account
>>> number
>> as
>>> | > well
>>> | > | as
>>> | > | > | the alarm and the
>>> | > | > | software would tell the panel to call back in 15 minutes.
>>> | > | > | I could then select that account from the list and tell the
>>> | software,
>>> | > | the
>>> | > | > | next time this account calls upload the panels eeprom
>>> | > | > | to the computer.  I know this would work if the panel was
>> calling
>>> | over
>>> | > a
>>> | > | > | standard phone line, but since I can't get into the
>>> | > | > | programming mode, I can't change the number it calls.  It was
>>> | > | recommended
>>> | > | > | that I let the panel call out, then unplug the phone line and
>> use
>>> a
>>> | > | > regular
>>> | > | > | phone to dial the number I want , then plug the alarms phone
>> jack
>>> | back
>>> | > | in
>>> | > | > | when it starts ringing.  I'm not sure if that would work
>>> either.
>>> | > | > | Any thoughts?
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | Bill
>>> | > | > | simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | "Doug L" <vssdoug@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> | > | > | news:x4SdnTWTtO1VILfeRVn-iw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | > | > My guess is that nothing will happen other than a
>> communication
>>> | > | failure,
>>> | > | > | > while not being familiar with the software or the panel in
>>> | question,
>>> | > | it
>>> | > | > | > sounds like you are trying to use a upload/download package
>>> to
>>> | > | > | > transmit/receive alarm signals.
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > Doug L
>>> | > | > | > --
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > "Bill" <simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> | > | > | > news:432a7c19$0$13523$5ec1c3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | > | >>I am planning on connecting straight to the panel using the
>> 5530
>>> | > | modem.
>>> | > | > | >> When an alarm is triggered the panel normally dials the
>> number
>>> | > | > programmed
>>> | > | > | >> to report the alarm.
>>> | > | > | >> What will happen now that the modem is plugged into the
>> panels
>>> | > phone
>>> | > | > | >> jack?
>>> | > | > | >> Will it still try to dial?  Will the modem just ignore the
>>> panels
>>> | > | > dialing
>>> | > | > | >> and send the connect tones?
>>> | > | > | >>
>>> | > | > | >> Thanks for the help.
>>> | > | > | >>
>>> | > | > | >> Bill
>>> | > | > | >> simard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> | > | > | >>
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