Re: 5010 Communication Problems

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, for the same reason I don't use any other makes than Paradox and DSC.
Ademco takeovers I either change out or more often refer them to some other
dealer that handles that product.  As for ADT, that would certainly seem to
indicate at least some sort of bias for sure. A "ripoff" Paradox is not by
any stretch of the imagination.

BTW, I had a Voxcom dealer bring me a couple of boards for unlocking. He was
driving down from Sudbury to a Voxcom convention here in town, and delivered
them to me in person. I asked him if he knew you, but he didn't....Badge
Security, a gentleman by the name of Mike Badger, in Hanmer, Ontario. I
thought he might because all you guys seem to know each other like a
family......

RHC

"Robert Skinner" <rgsandassociates@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:R3x1f.3686$R4.589413@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>I understand that it is simply a business decision Robert.  I had the same
>question about why Voxcom does not use Paradox.  Basically, they use three
>manufacturers now, Paradox would be a  fourth.  They have full time 24 tech
>support that have all be trained on the three, adding another one is a big
>deal for training purposes.  Not to mention the support they already
>recieve from those three, free training, materials etc.
>
> When I was with ADT I asked a senior service tech about Paradox and was
> told, why use a rip off when we already use the original.  Some bias there
> for sure.
>
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:q5edncSHJI9XDdveRVn-hQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>I can't speak about Ademco, because I know nothing about them. Both DSC
>>and Paradox are actually produced in factories in Mississauga and Montreal
>>respectively (I've been through both factories).
>>
>> I've had far better luck with Paradox panels, but that's just me; others
>> might tell you the opposite. I do feel Paradox wireless is far better
>> than DSC wireless though, and I also feel personally their panels are
>> more solid over the longer term. They did have a bad run of early model
>> panels that prejudiced a lot of dealers against them from the get go, and
>> we ARE an unforgiving lot. ADT don't handle Paradox because they are
>> reputed to have tried to buy the company, and they wouldn't sell, so
>> their opinion could be as much politics than anything else. But in
>> fairness, for a large company to take on another line of panels
>> represents a major cost in stocking, training, parts etc, so their
>> decision to not use Paradox could also just be a simple business
>> decision.
>>
>> Unfortunately, one person's opinion on a line of panels doesn't mean
>> much; there will be a thousand others that will tell you the opposite.
>>
>> RHC
>>
>> "Armond Perretta" <newsgroupreader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:_5KdnVtl9a21F9veRVn-sA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> R.H.Campbell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ... I've changed as many boards out as well because a lot of these
>>>> kinds of problems will re-occur in spite of your best efforts. Why
>>>> should we waste our time because of dubious electronics from the
>>>> manufacturer....
>>>
>>> Is there _one_ manufacturer who seems better (or worse) in this respect
>>> (DSC, Ademco, etc.).  Also, do manufacturers actually _make_ their own
>>> boards, or (like laptops) in there some clandestine factory somewhere in
>>> China putting boards together and applying various labels?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Good luck and good sailing.
>>> s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
>>> http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare
>>>
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