Re: Problem with ADT Security Company

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

So are you saying that because someone didn't read their agreement they
shouldn't be held accountable? I would be interested in seeing the judges
decission with that defense. I have reviewed many agreements for different
companies. I have a folder caulk full of agreements from my competitors. The
renewal clause is always in the terms. I have never seen one that had the
clause hidden somewhere else in the body of the agreement. If it were, then
and only then might a judge have a question about it.

"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4cqdnaJFiLXBz8veRVn-tg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> True enough on the surface for sure. However, how many salespeople tell
the
> client about this little clause when they first sign the contract ?
> Realistically, none. And how many people read each and every word of any
> contract they sign before they sign it ? Again, almost none ! Hell, I
can't
> even get them to read my standard one page agreement !! Most people still
> deal with companies and each other from a basis of trust, and unless
> prompted otherwise, will go on that basis. And we of all people should be
> trusted; after all, the client is trusting us with his security !
>
> Business contracts should not be set up with automatic "traps" for people
> signing them. If the company told the client up front about this, and the
> client was stupid enough to sign off on it (by initialling the clause or
> some such thing), then obviously it would be acceptable. But to sneak it
in,
> as some companies do for the express purpose of limiting the clients
> options, is unacceptable.
>
> But if the client is stupid enough to agree to this KNOWINGLY, then he
will
> be held to it (unless the law itself gives him some sort of relief on this
> point)
>
> RHC
>
>
> "moe" <moe@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:IVr5f.1225$lt.568@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > that is written into the contract and if the prospective customer
doesn't
> > want that "auto renewal" then all they have to do is not sign the
> > contract. Nobody forced anyone to sign a contract.  But if you sign then
> > you should live up to what you agreed to do.
> >
> > "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:LcqdnXQd2bAU2sveRVn-gA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Mark, normally what seems to happen in most cases is the client after
the
> >> first contract has expired, goes on a month to month basis. Then the
> >> client remains on month to month indefinately. Then as you say, the
> >> client can terminate with a months notice. My only objection is some
> >> companies (a minority thankfully) don't operate this way; instead, they
> >> continue to duplicate the original term once again unless the client
> >> takes positive action, needlessly locking the client in to another long
> >> term.
> >>
> >> That's what I'm suggesting is not a legitimate way to operate
> >>
> >> RHC
> >>
> >> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:_P2dnczKlc4IXMjenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> I would normally agree with you on parts of this RH but even with a 5
> >>> year
> >>> agreement the customer can also cancel if he gives a 1 month notice
> >>> after
> >>> the contract finishes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>