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Re: Alarm systems w/o phone line



"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
news:J5OdnXGU450w1RPfRVn-pg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Surely if the company wants to cancel with you for some reason, don't =
they=20
> call you to disconnect - otherwise, you could continue to bill them ?  =
At=20
> that point, with the sign on the unit, surely no other company is =
going to=20
> actually outright steal the device.....???

Hardly anyone actually cancels with me to go to another company, it's =
only when they move out and forget to call to cancel...then I don't know =
who's in the house until they call me in. So it's usually not a problem. =
I've lost a few radios though...no biggy eventually I get the =
back...sometimes=20



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> Early in the game, before I learned the ropes, I used to lease systems =
to=20
> people and especially to small businesses. The boards were locked=20
> legitimately (because I owned the equipment), and the sign on them was =

> virtually unremoveable, so only an outright thief or a complete dummy =
would=20
> ever think otherwise. I only ever lost one system. A second time, I =
had to=20
> call the police to remove my equipment. But I don't do that anymore...

I did about 10 leases and lost money & equipment on every one of them, I =
should have used a leasing company instead of being creative with my own =
lease...live and learn. Now it's just the radios and really cant get =
hurt even if I lose a few.


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> RHC
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> "Crash Gordon=AE" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
> news:WSpje.18$e02.1546@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> At one point in time I had over 200 of them in service but I sold some =
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> those accounts, now I only have maybe 15-20.
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> Recovery is easy if I have contact with the new homeowner, either they =
want=20
> it or they dont..in which case I just unhook it an put it in my =
pocket. I=20
> have small labels on them that state: Property Of xxxxx - its the only =
alarm=20
> device I don't actually sell.
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> The only ones I lose is if the new owners go with another =
company...but then=20
> again they CANT reuse the Uplink until its been dead for 3 months...so =
it's=20
> not like they can just switch it over...it's dead meat. If I keep =
paying for=20
> it it will never be able to be registered by another company too.
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> And since they are all mine anyway...no guilt :-)
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
> news:kPOdnZYgK71OgBPfRVn-1A@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sounds like I'm not alone in using them that way. So far, I only =
have two=20
> > in
> > service; one I sold to the gentleman for continuous backup to his =
phone=20
> > line
> > (personal family problems necessitated it on an urgent basis). The =
second=20
> > I
> > purchased and lent to the client while Bell sits on its hands. I'm =
buying=20
> > a
> > third one for another client without phone service but with a new =
alarm
> > system my son is busy installing as we talk.....
> >
> > Have you had any problems recovering the devices when the home has =
been=20
> > sold
> > ?
> >
> > RHC
> >
> > "Crash Gordon=AE" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:k%oje.15$MU1.591@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > I love the easy setup & admin. I use the 1500's too. They're a =
little
> > cheaper here, but probably not much (dunno the exchange rate off =
hand). I
> > maintain ownership of the radio itself, I just charge to install it =
and
> > maintain it. So...I end up getting them back when people move and =
the new
> > owners dont want it. I always have 4 or 5 laying around that way. =
And I=20
> > only
> > charge 10 bucks more a month for the monitoring, so it works out =
well, but
> > not a big money maker. If the client's are on fixed income budget I =
just
> > charge them what Uplink charges me.
> >
> > The new ones are mucho better than the legacy ones though.
> >
> >
> >
> > "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:T7-dnSwbDLhUjxPfRVn-qQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Yes, I've found Uplink to be an excellent and very cost effective=20
> > > solution
> > > for the odd time I use it. It seems to work well even in areas =
where
> > > cellphone use is not very reliable. The Uplink 1500 device can =
send=20
> > > three
> > > or
> > > four defined signals...ie: generic burglary, generic fire, =
telephone=20
> > > line
> > > monitor and one other. The dealer can access it via the internet =
and=20
> > > even
> > > cancel or activate service on the device from there.
> > >
> > > We currently have a telephone company strike going on here and I'm
> > > starting
> > > to install systems where there is no phone line installed yet. So =
for=20
> > > the
> > > month or two the client has to wait for Bell service, I =
temporarily hook
> > > up
> > > an Uplink device to provide monitoring service to the Central =
Station,
> > > which
> > > gives the client this vital part of his alarm system, and from my =
point=20
> > > of
> > > view, allows me to start billing for RMR.
> > >
> > > Only downside is the units cost about $350 Canadian each which I =
can't
> > > pass
> > > on to the client. However, I own a few now, and simply deactivate =
the=20
> > > unit
> > > and put it back in stock for the next client needing it, once the =
phone
> > > line
> > > is installed. And Uplink only charge for those months where the =
device=20
> > > is
> > > actually on line at any time during that month.
> > >
> > > Uplink folk are very flexible and nice to deal with. It's not =
often I'm
> > > impressed with any company in this bottom line driven industry, =
but my
> > > limited exposure to them has been all positive
> > >
> > > R.H.Campbell
> > > Home Security Metal Products
> > > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> > > www.homemetal.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:z4WdneQUusg_kBPfRVn-pQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Uplink...but it's not a DIYer thing.
> > > >> You have to have a dealer account...
> > > >
> > > > Anyone, including a DIYer can hook one up as long as the seller =
has a
> > > > dealer account.
> > > >
> > > >> And you can't talk on it.
> > > >
> > > > Correct.  It's only intended for alarm communications; not voice
> > > > telephone
> > > > calls.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Robert L Bass
> > > >
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> > > > Bass Home Electronics
> > > > 2291 Pine View Circle
> > > > Sarasota =B7 Florida =B7 34231
> > > > 877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
> > > > http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
> > > > =
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