Re: News: Wrong security code

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"Crash Gordon®" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > "J. Sloud" <jsloud2001@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:30:06 -0500, "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I agree. It wasn't a dig at ADT at all. But it provides a few of us
> > with
> > > > >some training examples.
> > > > >The example I would, and did point out to my CS staff is what a
> cancel
> > > code
> > > > >does.
> > > >
> > > > My reply was a defense of the entire industry.  The fact that ADT
was
> > > > the central is irrelevant.  It would have happened the same way
> > > > regardless.  From reading the article and not having access to all
the
> > > > facts, it appears that the correct code was entered after the
> > > > allowable time had elapsed for a cancel.  ADT's monitoring system is
> > > > very automated, and there is very little room for operator error.
> > >
> > > J, does ADT even use cancel signals? I'm just asking an honest
question.
> > > I agree, there are obviously a few missing facts.
> >
> > Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't
> >
> I didn't see anything on their web site about cancel signals, just their
> "enhanced call verification".
> What's your typically policy on cancel signals Mark? Do you guys use them?
> Or anybody for that matter.

>I didn't see anything either.

>But, their online price estimator is an eyeopener for anyone expecting a
low price on a full >system. Try comparing a residential alarm you sell to
what it would cost from >ADT...interesting!

ADT is not in my league, so I seldom see comparison's. I used to tell people
that their average sale was around $800.00 from their "get me in the door"
$99.00 deals. An old (ex) ADT Branch manager told me their average sale.

>I send cancels. It drops dispatch priority down a notch. We know someone is
there with "A" >code, but is it the cleaning lady that they fired 2 months
ago or what?

I send cancels, and o/c reports (if Internet Connected). I don't see too
many user activations as typically they don't physically get through the
door if their not allowed.

Hey Rob, off topic, have you seen the cut sheets on the new 7000 series
keypads from DMP?
They are know available. The 7063 has a built-in reader, much like the 793,
but with no zone inputs, reader input, relay output, or big cost. I'm going
to order a couple monday and have a look at them.


>So we try calling premise again - then dispatch.

>Same for Exit Errors.