Re: Ademco Panel

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, for that $1000 Power 632 install, I wonder how much each party made on
that ! It's my understanding that the alarmco's that do these builder
installs do so at a much reduced price in order to hopefully win the
monitoring contract. But you're right; that doesn't excuse unethical denial
of rightful access to customer owned equipment.

People on the ng tell me I make too much of this, but I don't believe I do.
It's quite common actually. But in fairness, it always seems to be the same
minority of companies that are guilty of this practice. Given the low price
of alarm panels at wholesale level, it just seems such a stupid thing to do,
and I doubt it stops any other alarmco intent on winning the business.

RHC

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:DXIqf.28$Lt1.4034@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>I can understand it, but I can't condone locking a panel before you even
> have the person as a client...that's unethical in my book. Stems partially
> from the fact that the alarmco was probably haggled down to a no profit
> install by the builder...the builder making more money on the system than
> the alarmco who did all the work....that kinda thing.
>
>
>
> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:DsFqf.2368$1Y4.266758@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Sir, best to send it to Jim Rojas on this newsgroup. He unlocks all
> makes
> of
> | boards; the other two who do it are located in Canada, and (speaking
> only
> | for myself) ONLY do DSC and Paradox. There just isn't enough business on
> | other makes of panels to make it worth while going through the process
> of
> | learning how to crack those boards.
> |
> | On the other hand, it might be simpler and only slightly more costly to
> | simply replace the board.
> |
> | BTW, Crash, I get lots of calls from people in the same boat, and have
> | actually been close by when the client was told by the alarmco to sign a
> | contract with them or they won't unlock the clients board (that's one of
> the
> | things that originally got me into this business...). Most alarmcos are
> | quite ethical though, and will assist the client. However, we have three
> | companies here in town that are known for this kind of activity.
> |
> | I came upon a new wrinkle on this theme the other day ! My customer
> moved
> | into his new home equipped with a DSC 632 that he paid $1000 to have
> | installed, and which was sold to him with the home. When I went there, I
> | found a truly magnificent installation. But on the can lid was a sticker
> | that said..."This panel is electronically locked for your
> | protection"...!!!!!! (including keypad lockout after three attempts...)
> |
> | Yah gotta wonder....
> |
> | R.H.Campbell
> | Home Security Metal Products
> | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> | www.homemetal.com
> |
> |
> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:eIEqf.13$Bz3.1304@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > Thats pretty weird they won't unlock it for  you. Most ethical
> companies
> | > will unlock it as long as you are not the original client that owes
> them
> | > 900
> | > bucks in deliquent monitoring fees.
> | >
> | > There's a couple of techs here that may be able to unlock it for you,
> | > you'd
> | > have to send them the board. Undoubtedly  they will see this post and
> | > respond.
> | >
> | > If it can't be unlocked you just toss it and replace it with a new
> | > board....imo, it's faster to just replace it.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Travelin" <travelin03@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:1135277616.319738.173350@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > |I recently purchased a home that has an Ademco Vista-15P panel and
> one
> | > | keypad installed.  The  local company that installed the system has
> set
> | > | his own lockout code and refuses to unlock the panel or reset to
> | > | factory default.
> | > |
> | > | Any suggestions on how "unlock" the panel.  By unlock I do not mean
> | > | physically unlock.  I have the key to the panel door.
> | > |
> | > | Thanks.
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
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