Re: More Experiments With My Old Rittenhouse Smokes, & Interconnecting New Ones

[Crash Gordon® <NONE@xxxxxxxx>]

Whats the voltage on the black?
Maybe it's just wired weird somewhere.


"Robert11" <rgsrose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
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> Hi,
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> Thanks guys for all the help.
> Really appreciate it.
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> The wires and wiring looks original.
> The smokes look original, and are probably about where one would =
expect them
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> The really funny thing, among others, is that when I put one of the =
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> Rittenhouse
> units on the bench by itself, hooked up power to it, I measured 110 V =
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> from what I am calling the interconnect wire to neutral.  This is for, =
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> course, the untriggered state.
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> I can't imagine how this thing was supposed to ever work !
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> With 110 V on the wire all the time when not triggered, what happened =
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> triggered; was it supposed to go to 0 V, or... ?   A relay hidden =
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> ?
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> Sure sounds like a weird way of doing things.
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> Any possibility that what I think was an interconnect wire on the old =
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> really was used for something else ?
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> Thanks,
> Bob
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> "Crash Gordon=AE" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
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> Does the 14/3 look original to the home? Are the locations where you =
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> to see smokes...or does it look like a slightly goofy retro fit?
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> "Robert11" <rgsrose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
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> > Hi,
> > Thanks for help.  Appreciate it.
> >
> > Yes, normal 3 wire Romex 14/3   white, black, red, + Gnd
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob
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> > "Crash Gordon=AE" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > And, what do you have between black & white?
> > I doubt there was a relay on a 110 VAC smoke.
> > And...are we talking about a Romex 14/3 (white, black, red + =
ground)?
> >
> >
> > "Robert11" <rgsrose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:mN6dnXMpFY2trvXfRVn-uA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thought I'd take a second and tell everyone my latest experiment =
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> > > the
> > > old Rittenhouse wired-in smoke detectors that I removed, and =
replaced=20
> > > with
> > > the new Kidde PI 2000 ones, and my difficulties in interconnecting =
them.
> > > See my previous posts on this.
> > >
> > > As  mentioned, the interconnect line, with No detectors on it, =
shows 2 V
> > > AC.
> > >
> > > So, I thought that I might learn something about how they might =
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> > > been
> > > hooked up with
> > > the Rittenhouser's by doing a little experiment.
> > >
> > > Took an old Rittenhouse and hooked it up on the bench by itself =
with 110=20
> > > V
> > > AC.
> > > Measured between the white neutral and its interconnect wire.
> > >
> > > Guess what:  110 V AC on it !
> > >
> > > So, for you experts, how might they have been hooked up to the =
existing
> > > interconnect
> > > wire originally ?  Does this say that there must be a relay =
somewhere ?
> > >
> > > Can't imagine how it could have worked with 110 V on the =
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> > > lead
> > > in the normal,
> > > non-tripped state ?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts ?
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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