Re: Bypass Telco's NID box?

["mikey" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

my sister's dialtone is gone... took me about half an hour to report it and
convince the knucklehead it wasn't the inside wiring. THREE TIMES I told her
I disconnected at the demarc and she's still asking me about telephones and
warning me there's a charge if it's inside, good lord woman!
it'll be 10 days, she finally sez
pretty bad

"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ZpOdnbtblrShEMjfRVn-rw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yeah Mike, I had about 100 call in "late to tests" that weekend. It seems
> the circuits between Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto went down within the
Bell
> network, and this (supposedly) caused the problem.
>
> Don't know how local systems would ever be affected by toll lines in that
> manner, but ...hey.....I only worked for Bell for 27 years...what the hell
> do I know !!!
>
> It does seem that Bell technicians are on strike, but I've only ever heard
> that from clients who've had to postpone their installations because of a
> lack of a phone line in their new homes....
>
> RHC
>
> "mikey" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:6rKdncj0zbyMEcjfRVn-gw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >I had 30 accounts fail to test one evening, Bob. I freaked. I thought
maybe
> > the station's receiver was fucked up or something. It was Bell, just
> > before
> > the techs walked curiously enough. We gotta start that station, Bob...
> > we'll
> > incorporate an RF network and clean up I tells ya.
> >
> > "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:nKadnXvtUJhhpcjfRVn-pQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Gawd....I can relate to that ! I have two enemies in this business;
first
> > is
> >> Bell Canada, and the second are drywallers !
> >>
> >> I don't know how many times I've been called out on "late to test" only
> >> to
> >> find that the Bell tech has hooked up dial tone to both sides of the
> >> exclusion jack, or worse, couldn't figure out what it was, so cut it
out
> > of
> >> the loop totally. If I could find a way to effectively bill Bell for
> >> every
> >> call caused by their ineptitude with alarms, I could get rich just on
> > these
> >> charges. I've taken to telling clients not to let the tech leave until
> > they
> >> have tested the alarm system for communications. Doesn't always work,
but
> > it
> >> makes the tech be a bit more careful (sometimes)
> >>
> >> These people are driving me crazy.....
> >>
> >> RHC
> >>
> >> "Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:Tx95e.33896$f%4.17420@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Just like everytime there is a phone problem at a home, the first
thing
> >> > the
> >> > person asks, at Ma Bell, is "do you have an alarm system?" Answer:
> >> > "Yes"
> >> > Ma
> >> > Bell response is "Then the problem is your alarm system"
> >> > BHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! True experience: I own two
unrelated
> >> > businesses sharing the same facility. The main number for the other
> >> > business
> >> > went dead. I already checked and there was no dial tone at the
demark.
> >> > I
> >> > told the manager to open a trouble ticket. Ma Bell asked their
favorite
> >> > question and gave their favorite answer. I told the manager to call
> >> > back
> >> > and
> >> > tell them the alarm company disconnected the alarm and still had
> > trouble.
> >> > Favorite question #2. "Do you have a telephone system? "Yes" Well,
that
> > is
> >> > the problem. I told the manager to call back and tell them "Now that
we
> >> > have
> >> > a bill from our alarm company and a bill from our telephone system
> >> > company"
> >> > who is going to get us dial tone at the demark and who is going to
pay
> >> > these
> >> > bills?" Of course there were no bills and they did come out after
three
> >> > calls and fix the line. Bottom line is that Bell is living is the
past
> >> > thinking alarm systems are the "cause all" problem with Bells
> >> > inadequencies.
> >> > There is no thought given to every $9.95 piece of grap telephone,
> >> > answering
> >> > machine, modem, fax, etc., people buy from god knows where and plug
> >> > into
> >> > their telephone lines. Bell employees, including technicians, may
know
> >> > their
> >> > job, but they sure don't know ours. I've tried using bell techs in
the
> >> > past
> >> > and they just don't get it if they can't use a staple gun!
> >> >
> >> > Bob4Secur
> >> >
> >> > "Jen...tel" <poleclimber@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:1112851679.100698.75520@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Geez you alarm guys have no idea what you're talking about. All it
> >> >> takes is one alarm "technician" to say something and the rest of you
> >> >> go
> >> >> babbling as if it's truth.
> >> >> The location of the entry point is controlled by the dominant
carrier
> >> >> of the wireline.  They say where it must be and that's all that's
> >> >> required by federal regulation.  This so called tariff you speak of
is
> >> >> a simple federal regulation controlling premise demarcation and
MPOE.
> >> >> The wireline carrier states where the demarcation entry point is
> >> >> located.  This is normally the location where the block was first
> >> >> installed at a site.  All changes from that will follow federal
> >> >> regulation for a MPOE.  Move the "box' all you like but we are not
> >> >> responsible for anything past the recorded PAP for the demarcation
or
> >> >> MPOE.  One other thing, the box housing the jump & protector is the
> >> >> property of the installing phone company.  Homeowners have no rights
> >> >> to
> >> >> move or alter it.  Its location is based on a permanent recorded
> >> >> federal utility right-of-way.
> >> >> All you alarm guys who moved it without getting Ma's permission have
> >> >> screwed the homeowner.  All it takes is a call.  Qwest will relocate
a
> >> >> demarc from for security purposes if a customer ask.  If we move it,
a
> >> >> MPOE is established and that means we take on the responsibility.
You
> >> >> homeowners need to stop trusting what alarm technicians say about
> >> >> telephone issues cause those guys know jack about what they are
> >> >> saying.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Jenn
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