Re: Lufkin Security Experiances

[Crash Gordon® <NONE@xxxxxxxx>]

The documentation has been re-written and is a little better than it =
used to be...however.....

Make sure the kit comes with a keypad you can fully program the panel =
with. The inexpensive keypads; 6128, 6148 you can't program the zones =
with...you can only program part of the system with them (this can be =
really frustrating if you don't know).

Also...most alarm instructions are written in Alarmlish, if you don't =
understand the terminology, it ain't explained anywhere.

With the Ademco stuff you will find yourself bouncing from three =
different manuals; user, install, programming, and maybe even an =
addendum (i find this annoying).

It isn't a really hard panel to program however...as long as you =
understand Alarmlish.

I also recommend setting it up on your kitchen table first, program it =
there with the zones strapped out, connect phone line and send signals =
with it under controlled situation...call the CS and see if they got the =
right signal...then install the system in your house. This can save =
hours of frustration looking for a problem that may not exist.



"Mike" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
news:RtOdnazjaeVTEs3fRVn-qw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yes im in mass, i just heard back from one of the ebayers that =
purchased a=20
> Vista 20P from them, and he said he has run into installation and=20
> programming problems, and he wasn't clear on whether or not Lufkin was =
able=20
> to help. By the sound of it he's looking for an installation co in the =
St=20
> Paul area so im assuming he had problems with Lufkin.
> Lufkin did answer all my questions quickly today via email and i was =
hoping=20
> their support was top notch if i needed it.
> This one guy said he had done wiring before, and didn't think =
installing the=20
> Vista 20P would be that big a deal. He said he was pretty surprised. =
Now=20
> this is just one persons experience so im not sure what to think about =
it.
> I do field service and have worked in maintenance most of my life and =
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> run a small PC repair business and have dabbled in some programming =
and site=20
> design. I cant imagine that with the right documentation that =
installing a=20
> system is rocket science. Im sure if the wrong hardware or wiring is =
used or=20
> proper installation practices aren't followed then problems could come =
up.
> Are the installs on a 20P easy enough for the DIY'r with a decent =
technical=20
> background? I assumed they were.
> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
> news:LNqdnfySMpZTvs3fRVn-qA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Personally, I'm not a big fan of terminal type connectors...I have a
> > tendency to Gorilla things. I'm an old fashioned installed...wire =
leads,
> > solder, and some good old "33" Electrical tape.
> > Those prices sound retail, and about average.
> > Most of the equipment in the residential market is nickel and dime =
now a
> > days. It's very competitive, and typically you're only paying about =
10 to
> > 15% over what some dealers would pay for it wholesale.
> > Are you located up in Mass?
> >
> > "Mike" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:AeGdnUcQRYv2jM3fRVn-gA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Thanks Jackcsg.
> >> Any thoughts on door contacts and prewired vs terminal type?
> >> I would think that having to splice something inside the wall =
wouldnt be
> > as
> >> preferred as having a continous run.
> >> They have an install kit which includes 3 contacts PR-20445 w/18" =
leads,
> >> 500' 24/4 cable an RJ31X jack and some connectors for $39.75.
> >> Link: http://www.lufkinsecurity.com/Wire.htm#rj31x
> >>
> >> Im sure it could all be had for slightly less money, then again i =
havent
> >> priced 24/4 cable in a while.
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:hO2dnW8f86DklM3fRVn-sQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > They're a dime a dozen Mike. Line up ten, then toss a quarter. As =
long
> > as
> >> > they support what they sell, the service is just another coin =
toss.=20
> >> > Best
> >> > of
> >> > luck.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:AZCdnTdBcsvlfdLfRVn-og@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Ok so we have the 1st wise ass reply how about a helpful =
response.
> >> >> And just because a company sells on Ebay doesnt necassarily make =
them
> >> >> unreputable. But i do get your drift.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Sparky" <Sparky@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:6bM3e.21145$uo3.15077@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > He sells on Ebay so he must be top flight :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mike" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:a6-dnXqLgM2y4dLfRVn-1g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> Has anyone purchased anything from Lufkin Security Inc. or =
have any
> >> >> >> experience with their monitoring services?
> >> >> >> With the purchase of an Ademco Vista 20P system they will =
include 1
> >> > year
> >> >> >> of monitoring at $5/pr month. Their prices on the Vista 20P =
kits
> > seem
> >> >> >> competitive with other online vendors and the support options =
seem
> >> > pretty
> >> >> >> decent. I guess its easy to slap up a good looking website =
and i
> > have
> >> >> >> been unable to find any reviews or others experiences with =
them.=20
> >> >> >> Any
> >> > info
> >> >> >> or resources to check out their ratings would be appreciated.
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >> https://www.lufkinsecurity.com/index.htm
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