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Hi Kevin,
I've done 9 posts to this list starting from July 2009.
Anyway moving on.
Regards,
Neil Wrightson.
N.W.Electronics
ABN 76 768 513 867
Embedded Controllers and Home Automation Products
Skype : Neil_Wrightson
Web : www.nwe.net.au
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From: xAP_developer@xxxxxxx [mailto:xAP_developer@xxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 11:22 AM
To: xAP_developer@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [xAP_developer] Why do I have to wait for a group moderator?
Neil - It isn't possible to vet new membership requests in terms of whether
they are really xAP interested or not so the current system is the most
effective for spam control. As I explained in my other reply after a few
posts you will become automatically unmoderated anyway, and the low
activity
and urgency of this list isn't I'm sure going to cause any issues in the
meantime. Not one of your messages has been moderated on content, ...we
do
try and keep this a friendly on topic list .
K
Bill,
To be a member of this group and be able to email to it at all. I must
first
submit to the group and receive approval from a moderator. Isn't this the
spam blocking area.
If I spam, remove me from the group.
However, once I am approved, I should be able to freely conduct
conversations with the group at a reasonable rate. Yet I'm not. This is now
moderator censoring my every word, not spam blocking
Waiting 7 hours for my email to be approved, when I have already been
accepted as a member is my concern.
It makes it bloody hard to have a conversation with the group, with seven
hour submission times between each side of the conversation.
Regards,
Neil Wrightson.
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From: xAP_developer@ <mailto:xAP_developer@xxxxxxx>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:xAP_develope
<mailto:xAP_developer@xxxxxxx>
r@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Kearney
Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2010 11:52 PM
To: xAP_developer@ <mailto:xAP_developer@xxxxxxx>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xAP_developer] Why do I have to wait for a group moderator?
Gee, what a shame. Moderators taking their time and effort to help block
spam. Others writing software and giving it away for free. Meanwhile the
impatient bitch and moan.
Spam is a hassle. Moderating is about the only way to cut down on the
TREMENDOUS amount of hit-and-run spam to mailing lists. Lots of mailing
lists are run this way. It works QUITE well.
----- Original Message -----
> Hi,
>
> Sorry about the double posting. I originally posted two emails to
> xap_automation when they should have gone to xAP_developer.
>
> I sent the two emails 3 hours ago but they are still not posted on the
> group yet.
>
> This then leads me to my current email where I have used the yahoo
groups
> web page to do my double posting.
> Here I notice that I must first await a moderator to read my email and
> approve it befor posting.
>
> What crap. All of this modern high speed technology and I still have
to
> wait for an individual somewhere on the other side of the world,
probably
> fast asleep, to then read my email and say yes/no.
>
> So much for an open source, free to the public system.
> I can't even ask a question without it being screened.
>
> Neil.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=068001206-14032010><FONT
color=#0000ff
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from July
2009.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=068001206-14032010><FONT
color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Anyway moving
on.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE:
10pt">Regards,</SPAN> </P>
<P><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Neil
Wrightson.</SPAN></B> <BR><B><I><SPAN
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<BR><SPAN
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<BR><SPAN
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Controllers and Home
Automation Products</SPAN> <BR>Skype : <SPAN
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<BR><SPAN
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Kevin
Hawkins<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 14 March 2010 11:22
AM<BR><B>To:</B>
xAP_developer@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[xAP_developer] Why do I
have to wait for a group
moderator?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><BR><BR>Neil - It isn't possible to vet new membership
requests in terms of
whether they are really xAP interested or not so the current system is the
most effective for spam control. As I explained in my other reply
after
a few posts you will become automatically unmoderated anyway, and the low
activity and urgency of this list isn't I'm sure going to cause any issues
in
the meantime. Not one of your messages has been moderated on
content,
...we do try and keep this a friendly on topic list
.<BR><BR>
K<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
class=190475621-13032010>To be a member of this group and be able to
email
to it at all. I must first submit to the group and receive approval from a
moderator. Isn't this the spam blocking
area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
class=190475621-13032010>If I spam, remove me from the
group.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
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class=190475621-13032010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
class=190475621-13032010>However, once I am approved, I should be able
to
freely conduct conversations with the group at a reasonable rate. Yet I'm
not. This is now moderator censoring my every word, not spam
blocking</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
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class=190475621-13032010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
class=190475621-13032010>Waiting 7 hours for my email to be approved,
when I
have already been accepted as a member is my
concern.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
class=190475621-13032010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
class=190475621-13032010>It makes it bloody hard to have a conversation
with
the group, with seven hour submission times between each side of the
conversation.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE:
10pt">Regards,</SPAN> </P>
<P><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Neil
Wrightson.</SPAN></B> </P></DIV>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill
Kearney<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 13 March 2010
11:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
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Re: [xAP_developer] Why do I have to wait for a group
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<DIV id=ygrp-text>
<P>Gee, what a shame. Moderators taking their time and effort to help
block <BR>spam. Others writing software and giving it away for free.
Meanwhile the <BR>impatient bitch and moan.<BR><BR>Spam
is a hassle.
Moderating is about the only way to cut down on the <BR>TREMENDOUS
amount
of hit-and-run spam to mailing lists. Lots of mailing <BR>lists are
run
this way. It works QUITE well.<BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----
<BR><BR>> Hi,<BR>><BR>> Sorry
about the double posting. I
originally posted two emails to <BR>> xap_automation when they
should
have gone to xAP_developer.<BR>><BR>> I sent the
two emails 3 hours
ago but they are still not posted on the <BR>> group
yet.<BR>><BR>> This then leads me to my current
email where I have
used the yahoo groups <BR>> web page to do my double
posting.<BR>>
Here I notice that I must first await a moderator to read my email and
<BR>> approve it befor
posting.<BR>><BR>> What crap. All of this
modern high speed technology and I still have to <BR>> wait
for an
individual somewhere on the other side of the world, probably
<BR>>
fast asleep, to then read my email and say
yes/no.<BR>><BR>> So much
for an open source, free to the public system.<BR>> I can't
even ask a
question without it being screened.<BR>><BR>>
Neil.<BR><BR></P></DIV><!-- end group email
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