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The Hue Lux bulbs have now been rebranded to Hue White. Was a bit
confusing=
but makes more sense now with Hue White and Hue Colour and White bulbs.
Not tried the GU10's - when you have a GU10 fixture with 4 lamps, it gets
a=
bit pricey at =A350 per lamp!!!
Although I love the Hue Colour and White lamps, I think they're a bit over
=
priced at =A350 compared to =A314 ish for the white only. After all, the
di=
fference in component price certainly won't be =A336!
On 31 Dec 2015, at 07:03, Phil Harris phil@xxxxxxx<mailto:phil@avaddict=
.tv> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>> wrote=
:
Reading this when I'm not half asleep - there are two versions of the
bulbs=
, Hue Lux and Hue White and Colour ... The Hue Lux are the simple white
one=
s that dim and the Hue White and Colour dim and change colour. Both of
thos=
e, if turned off and then back on again, come on at full brightness white.
I presume the GU10 ones do as well as they are also intended as lightbulb
r=
eplacements - I.e. For illuminating rather than for accenting.
The Accent lights however (Bloom, Iris, Hue Strip) are not suitable for
ill=
uminating a room and therefore don't attempt to do so when they are turned
=
off and then on again ... My Bloom seems to come back on at what it was
las=
t set to - if it was on at a colour then it seems to come back on at that
c=
olour, if it was off them it seems to do a quick rainbow cycle and reverts
=
to off ... But as these are supposed to be accent lights then I think
that'=
s reasonable.
Phil
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:01, Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx<mailto:phil@avaddic=
t.tv>> wrote:
Both default to coming on 'full bright white' ...
Phil
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:53, Wayne Harrison Wayne@xxxxxxx<mailto:Wayne=
@planetwayne.com> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroup=
s.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
Following the recent AH video on Siri integration (did anyone notice the
DV=
D of an open fire?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an interest in these
Ph=
ilips lights, I have a quick question. If these are replacements for
existi=
ng bulbs, do they work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch to
=
turn them on?
I realise that you would normally use an app to operate, but if they were
t=
o be plugged in to a normal light socket and someone turned it off at the
w=
all so to speak, if it was next turned back on at the wall switch, do they
=
default to 'bright white on=92 - ie go to =91normal light bulb=92 mode?
Als=
o would this the case for all the the Hue range or just the =91bulb=92
vers=
ions? (looking at the LED strip lights also)
Hope that makes sense!
Cheers
Wayne.
On 30 Dec 2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris' phil@xxxxxxx<mailto:phil@avaddi=
ct.tv> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>> wro=
te:
At the moment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue Bridge" starter
set, the "3
Hue and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the Bloom and the
"Hue Whit=
e
and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x Bloom, 2 x Hue Bridges, 3 x Hue
and
Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)
I keep looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because the Hue Bridge seems
to have no possible support for anything other than lights (so no plug in
switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall switches etc.) whereas in
theory the Hue bulbs can be used with the SmartThings Hub directly *OR* via
the Hue Bridge but what concerns me about the SmartThings is that it
appear=
s
to *NEED* the backend SmartThings server to perform its smart things (I
don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs continued goodwill at
keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up swapping out one
smartphone / tablet based control for another smartphone/tablet based
control ... I want to get to a position where the tablet is only needed for
occasional tweaking rather than actual day-to-day control.
Of course the other consideration has to be that I've already thrown
=A3300=
at
Hue in the last two weeks so another =A3200 on SmartThings (when I need to
=
now
also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the remaining 2Tb drives in my
=
8
bay Synology NAS has just failed) is getting expensive. :-D
At the moment I have the Official Phlips Hue app, "Hue Mate",
"Huemote",
"OnSwitch", "MagicHue" and "IF" installed ...
haven't had much of a play
with Siri control yet...
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 30 December 2015 11:22
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
Oh no! A big Faraday cage!
Have you looksed at any of the other alternative to the Hue app?
TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue lights now - and the
smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for basic control. Did
yo=
u
say you have that or just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't remember. Although a
warning that the ST system is fun and shows potential, there are still a
fe=
w
issues!
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 30 December 2015 11:08
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
I thought the Bloom actually felt very solid when I unboxed it but the
ligh=
t
output is pretty crap ... If you're saying that your Iris do a good purple
(and therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe there's something
wron=
g
with this one ... Might see if I can get it replaced?
I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and although I got
everything working and paired up on my test wiring harnesses (makes all the
pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway much easier) when I
dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy that wired this place
helpfully used really deep plasterboard boxes) I couldn't get reliable
comm=
s
and programming ... Turns out the whole place is done even internally with
foil backed insulated board which must be blocking RF back to the gateway
... :-(
Looks like the mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work fine here though so
I'm back to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the Geofence function on
th=
e
Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty clunky and rather
obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm going to stick with
Hu=
e
then I will need to order up a bunch more wireless remotes and thinking
about whether it would be possible to 3D print up some replacement switch
cover blanks with receptacles for the wireless dimmer switches in them to
make them more useable.
One thing I did find which is handy though ... All the light switch
locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I need to have a look
and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall switches. :-)
Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of HomeGate (Clipsal CBus) or
HomeVision ... :-)
Phil
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx<mailto:group=
s2@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d]
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> I don't like the bloom much - too small and under powered. I do have 9
(!=
)
of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have cut manufacturing costs
significantly over the years and they're now very plasticy - used to be
muc=
h
more stylish. Still good for colouring a small wall though. Not tested CRI
etc but they do pretty well on purple which they're mostly used on.
>
> As for the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they were recently
rebranded
to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the re-brand, they were updated
slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally higher light output. So
there are at least two versions out there.
>
>
> Paul.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 28 December 2015 22:47
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>
>
> I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while I was there with a mate
picking
up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me) ...
>
> Anyway, the sales are on so I ended up getting another starter kit
(the
Hue White and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course aren't in any sales
but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...
>
> Might have been spoiled in the past as I was using some DMX controlled
wall washers, floods and spots but they were all pretty old (at least four
years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing on the White and Hue
bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in comparison - I'd
definitely query the '16 million colours' claim, they might have 256 levels
for each of RGB but by God they don't reproduce them ...
>
> The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out Green and their Cyan is
basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.
>
> The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent Red but Purple is
basically
Light Pink and Blue is really poor too ... I'm actually wondering if it
could be faulty given that other reviews on the Bloom have been very
complimentary about its colour rendition.
>
> I wonder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are any better ...
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx<mailto:phil@xxxxxxx>>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
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<div>The Hue Lux bulbs have now been rebranded to Hue White. Was a
bit conf=
using but makes more sense now with Hue White and Hue Colour and White
bulb=
s. </div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Not tried the GU10's - when
you have a GU10 =
fixture with 4 lamps, it gets a bit pricey at =A350 per lamp!!!</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Although I love the Hue
Colour and White lam=
ps, I think they're a bit over priced at =A350 compared to =A314 ish for
th=
e white only. After all, the difference in component price certainly won't
=
be =A336!</div>
<div><br>
On 31 Dec 2015, at 07:03, Phil Harris <a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";>p=
hil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div><span></span></div>
<div>
<div>Reading this when I'm not half asleep - there are two versions
of the =
bulbs, Hue Lux and Hue White and Colour ... The Hue Lux are the simple
whit=
e ones that dim and the Hue White and Colour dim and change colour. Both
of=
those, if turned off and then back
on again, come on at full brightness white.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I presume the GU10 ones do as well as they are also intended as
lightb=
ulb replacements - I.e. For illuminating rather than for
accenting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Accent lights however (Bloom, Iris, Hue Strip) are not
suitable fo=
r illuminating a room and therefore don't attempt to do so when they are
tu=
rned off and then on again ... My Bloom seems to come back on at what it
wa=
s last set to - if it was on at
a colour then it seems to come back on at that colour, if it was off them =
it seems to do a quick rainbow cycle and reverts to off ... But as these
ar=
e supposed to be accent lights then I think that's reasonable.</div>
<div><br>
<div>Phil
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:01, Phil Harris <<a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx=
v">phil@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div>Both default to coming on 'full bright white'
... <br>
<br>
Phil
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:53, Wayne Harrison <a href=3D"mailto:Wayne@planetwayn=
e.com">Wayne@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>Hi All,
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Following the recent AH video on Siri
integration (did anyo=
ne notice the DVD of an open fire?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an
inte=
rest in these Philips lights, I have a quick question. If these are
replace=
ments for existing bulbs, do they
work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch to turn them
on?</di=
v>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">I realise that you would normally use an
app to operate, bu=
t if they were to be plugged in to a normal light socket and someone
turned=
it off at the wall so to speak, if it was next turned back on at the wall =
switch, do they default to 'bright
white on=92 - ie go to =91normal light bulb=92 mode? Also would this the c=
ase for all the the Hue range or just the =91bulb=92 versions? (looking at
=
the LED strip lights also)</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Hope that makes sense!</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Cheers</div>
<div class=3D"">Wayne.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On 30 Dec 2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris'
<a href=3D"mailto:p=
hil@xxxxxxx" class=3D"">
phil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"=
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
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class=3D"">
<p style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"
class=3D"">At the mo=
ment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue Bridge" starter
set, the &q=
uot;3<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
Hue and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the Bloom and the
&quo=
t;Hue White<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x Bloom, 2 x Hue Bridges, 3 x
Hue a=
nd<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;"=
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
I keep looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because the Hue Bridge
seems=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
to have no possible support for anything other than lights (so no plug
in<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall switches etc.) whereas
in<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
theory the Hue bulbs can be used with the SmartThings Hub directly *OR*
via=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
the Hue Bridge but what concerns me about the SmartThings is that it
appear=
s<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
to *NEED* the backend SmartThings server to perform its smart things
(I<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs continued goodwill
at<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up swapping out
one<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
smartphone / tablet based control for another smartphone/tablet based<br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
control ... I want to get to a position where the tablet is only needed
for=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
occasional tweaking rather than actual day-to-day control.<br
style=3D"line=
-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Of course the other consideration has to be that I've already thrown
=A3300=
at<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Hue in the last two weeks so another =A3200 on SmartThings (when I need to
=
now<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the remaining 2Tb drives in my
=
8<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
bay Synology NAS has just failed) is getting expensive. :-D<br
style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
At the moment I have the Official Phlips Hue app, "Hue
Mate", &qu=
ot;Huemote",<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
"OnSwitch", "MagicHue" and
"IF" installed ...=
haven't had much of a play<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
with Siri control yet...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Phil<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Oh no! A big Faraday cage!<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Have you looksed at any of the other alternative to the Hue app?<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue lights now - and
the<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for basic control. Did
yo=
u<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
say you have that or just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't remember. Although
a=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
warning that the ST system is fun and shows potential, there are still a
fe=
w<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
issues!<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Paul.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
-----Original Message-----<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
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I thought the Bloom actually felt very solid when I unboxed it but the
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output is pretty crap ... If you're saying that your Iris do a good
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(and therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe there's something
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g<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
with this one ... Might see if I can get it replaced?<br
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I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and although I got<br
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everything working and paired up on my test wiring harnesses (makes all
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pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway much easier) when I<br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy that wired this
place<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
helpfully used really deep plasterboard boxes) I couldn't get reliable
comm=
s<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
and programming ... Turns out the whole place is done even internally
with<=
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foil backed insulated board which must be blocking RF back to the
gateway<b=
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... :-(<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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Looks like the mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work fine here though
so<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
I'm back to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the Geofence function on
th=
e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty clunky and rather<br
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obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm going to stick with
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e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
then I will need to order up a bunch more wireless remotes and
thinking<br =
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about whether it would be possible to 3D print up some replacement
switch<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
cover blanks with receptacles for the wireless dimmer switches in them
to<b=
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make them more useable.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
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One thing I did find which is handy though ... All the light switch<br
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locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I need to have a
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and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall switches. :-)<br
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Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of HomeGate (Clipsal CBus)
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HomeVision ... :-)<span
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Phil<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...<br
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> On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale<span
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<<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
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> I don't like the bloom much - too small and under powered. I do
have 9=
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of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have cut manufacturing
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significantly over the years and they're now very plasticy - used to be
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more stylish. Still good for colouring a small wall though. Not tested
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etc but they do pretty well on purple which they're mostly used on.<br
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> As for the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they were recently
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to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the re-brand, they were
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slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally higher light output.
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> Paul.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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> -----Original Message-----<br style=3D"line-height:
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> From:<span
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lto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
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> Sent: 28 December 2015 22:47<br style=3D"line-height:
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> To:<span
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> Subject: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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> I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while I was there with a mate
pick=
ing<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me) ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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ass=3D"">
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> Anyway, the sales are on so I ended up getting another starter kit
(th=
e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Hue White and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course aren't in any
sales<=
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but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...<span
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> Might have been spoiled in the past as I was using some DMX
controlled=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
wall washers, floods and spots but they were all pretty old (at least
four<=
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years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing on the White and
Hue<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in comparison - I'd<br
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e=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
definitely query the '16 million colours' claim, they might have 256
levels=
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for each of RGB but by God they don't reproduce them ...<br
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> The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out Green and their
Cyan is=
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basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.<br
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> The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent Red but Purple is
basica=
lly<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Light Pink and Blue is really poor too ... I'm actually wondering if
it<br =
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could be faulty given that other reviews on the Bloom have been very<br
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complimentary about its colour rendition.<br style=3D"line-height:
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> I wonder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are any better
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