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Reading this when I'm not half asleep - there are two versions of the
bulbs=
, Hue Lux and Hue White and Colour ... The Hue Lux are the simple white
one=
s that dim and the Hue White and Colour dim and change colour. Both of
thos=
e, if turned off and then back on again, come on at full brightness white.
I presume the GU10 ones do as well as they are also intended as lightbulb
r=
eplacements - I.e. For illuminating rather than for accenting.
The Accent lights however (Bloom, Iris, Hue Strip) are not suitable for
ill=
uminating a room and therefore don't attempt to do so when they are turned
=
off and then on again ... My Bloom seems to come back on at what it was
las=
t set to - if it was on at a colour then it seems to come back on at that
c=
olour, if it was off them it seems to do a quick rainbow cycle and reverts
=
to off ... But as these are supposed to be accent lights then I think
that'=
s reasonable.
Phil
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
> On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:01, Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>=20
> Both default to coming on 'full bright white' ...=20
>=20
> Phil
>=20
> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>=20
>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:53, Wayne Harrison Wayne@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] =
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi All,
>>=20
>> Following the recent AH video on Siri integration (did anyone
notice the=
DVD of an open fire?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an interest in these=
Philips lights, I have a quick question. If these are replacements for exi=
sting bulbs, do they work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch
=
to turn them on?
>>=20
>> I realise that you would normally use an app to operate, but if
they wer=
e to be plugged in to a normal light socket and someone turned it off at
th=
e wall so to speak, if it was next turned back on at the wall switch, do
th=
ey default to 'bright white on=E2=80=99 - ie go to =E2=80=98normal light
bu=
lb=E2=80=99 mode? Also would this the case for all the the Hue range or
jus=
t the =E2=80=98bulb=E2=80=99 versions? (looking at the LED strip lights
als=
o)
>>=20
>> Hope that makes sense!
>>=20
>> Cheers
>> Wayne.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris' phil@xxxxxxx [ukha_d]
<ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> At the moment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue
Bridge" starter set, the=
"3
>>> Hue and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the Bloom
and the "Hue =
White
>>> and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x Bloom, 2 x Hue
Bridges, 3 x Hue an=
d
>>> Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)
>>>=20
>>> I keep looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because the Hue
Bridge s=
eems
>>> to have no possible support for anything other than lights (so
no plug =
in
>>> switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall switches etc.)
whereas in
>>> theory the Hue bulbs can be used with the SmartThings Hub
directly *OR*=
via
>>> the Hue Bridge but what concerns me about the SmartThings is
that it ap=
pears
>>> to *NEED* the backend SmartThings server to perform its smart
things (I
>>> don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs continued
goodwill at
>>> keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up swapping
out one
>>> smartphone / tablet based control for another
smartphone/tablet based
>>> control ... I want to get to a position where the tablet is
only needed=
for
>>> occasional tweaking rather than actual day-to-day control.
>>>=20
>>> Of course the other consideration has to be that I've already
thrown =
=C2=A3300 at
>>> Hue in the last two weeks so another =C2=A3200 on SmartThings
(when I n=
eed to now
>>> also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the remaining 2Tb
drives in=
my 8
>>> bay Synology NAS has just failed) is getting expensive. :-D
>>>=20
>>> At the moment I have the Official Phlips Hue app, "Hue
Mate", "Huemote"=
,
>>> "OnSwitch", "MagicHue" and "IF"
installed ... haven't had much of a pla=
y
>>> with Siri control yet...
>>>=20
>>> Phil
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>>> Sent: 30 December 2015 11:22
>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>>>=20
>>> Oh no! A big Faraday cage!
>>>=20
>>> Have you looksed at any of the other alternative to the Hue
app?
>>>=20
>>> TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue lights now -
and the
>>> smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for basic
control. Di=
d you
>>> say you have that or just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't
remember. Althou=
gh a
>>> warning that the ST system is fun and shows potential, there
are still =
a few
>>> issues!
>>>=20
>>> Paul.
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>>> Sent: 30 December 2015 11:08
>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>>>=20
>>> I thought the Bloom actually felt very solid when I unboxed it
but the =
light
>>> output is pretty crap ... If you're saying that your Iris do a
good pur=
ple
>>> (and therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe there's
something =
wrong
>>> with this one ... Might see if I can get it replaced?
>>>=20
>>> I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and although I
got
>>> everything working and paired up on my test wiring harnesses
(makes all=
the
>>> pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway much easier)
when I
>>> dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy that wired
this place
>>> helpfully used really deep plasterboard boxes) I couldn't get
reliable =
comms
>>> and programming ... Turns out the whole place is done even
internally w=
ith
>>> foil backed insulated board which must be blocking RF back to
the gatew=
ay
>>> ... :-(
>>>=20
>>> Looks like the mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work fine
here though =
so
>>> I'm back to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the Geofence
function o=
n the
>>> Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty clunky and
rather
>>> obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm going to
stick wit=
h Hue
>>> then I will need to order up a bunch more wireless remotes and
thinking
>>> about whether it would be possible to 3D print up some
replacement swit=
ch
>>> cover blanks with receptacles for the wireless dimmer switches
in them =
to
>>> make them more useable.
>>>=20
>>> One thing I did find which is handy though ... All the light
switch
>>> locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I need to
have a lo=
ok
>>> and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall switches. :-)
>>>=20
>>> Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of HomeGate
(Clipsal CBus=
) or
>>> HomeVision ... :-)=20
>>>=20
>>> Phil
>>>=20
>>> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>>>=20
>>> > On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx
[ukha_d]
>>> <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >=20
>>> > I don't like the bloom much - too small and under
powered. I do have =
9 (!)
>>> of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have cut
manufacturing cos=
ts
>>> significantly over the years and they're now very plasticy -
used to be=
much
>>> more stylish. Still good for colouring a small wall though.
Not tested =
CRI
>>> etc but they do pretty well on purple which they're mostly
used on.
>>> >=20
>>> > As for the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they were
recently rebra=
nded
>>> to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the re-brand, they
were upda=
ted
>>> slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally higher light
output. =
So
>>> there are at least two versions out there.
>>> >=20
>>> >=20
>>> > Paul.
>>> >=20
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>>> > Sent: 28 December 2015 22:47
>>> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>> > Subject: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>>> >=20
>>> >=20
>>> > I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while I was there
with a mate pic=
king
>>> up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me) ...
>>> >=20
>>> > Anyway, the sales are on so I ended up getting another
starter kit (t=
he
>>> Hue White and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course aren't
in any sa=
les
>>> but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...=20
>>> >=20
>>> > Might have been spoiled in the past as I was using some
DMX controlle=
d
>>> wall washers, floods and spots but they were all pretty old
(at least f=
our
>>> years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing on the
White and H=
ue
>>> bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in comparison
- I'd
>>> definitely query the '16 million colours' claim, they might
have 256 le=
vels
>>> for each of RGB but by God they don't reproduce them ...
>>> >=20
>>> > The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out Green and
their Cyan i=
s
>>> basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.
>>> >=20
>>> > The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent Red but
Purple is basic=
ally
>>> Light Pink and Blue is really poor too ... I'm actually
wondering if it
>>> could be faulty given that other reviews on the Bloom have
been very
>>> complimentary about its colour rendition.
>>> >=20
>>> > I wonder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are any
better ...=20
>>> >=20
>>> > Phil
>>> >=20
>>> > Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>>> >=20
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> > Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx>
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> >=20
>>> >=20
>>> >=20
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> >=20
>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>> >=20
>>>=20
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>=20
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>=20
>>> Yahoo Groups Links
>>>=20
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> Posted by: Paul Gale <paul@xxxxxxx>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>=20
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>=20
>>> Yahoo Groups Links
>>>=20
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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<div><span></span></div><div><div>Reading
this when I'm not half asleep - t=
here are two versions of the bulbs, Hue Lux and Hue White and Colour ...
Th=
e Hue Lux are the simple white ones that dim and the Hue White and Colour
d=
im and change colour. Both of those, if turned off and then back on again,
=
come on at full brightness
white.</div><div><br></div><div>I presume the
GU=
10 ones do as well as they are also intended as lightbulb replacements -
I.=
e. For illuminating rather than for
accenting.</div><div><br></div><div>The=
Accent lights however (Bloom, Iris, Hue Strip) are not suitable for illumi=
nating a room and therefore don't attempt to do so when they are turned
off=
and then on again ... My Bloom seems to come back on at what it was last s=
et to - if it was on at a colour then it seems to come back on at that
colo=
ur, if it was off them it seems to do a quick rainbow cycle and reverts to
=
off ... But as these are supposed to be accent lights then I think that's
r=
easonable.</div><div><br><div>Phil<div><br></div><div>Sent
from another blo=
ody fruit-based portable
device...</div></div></div><div><br>On 31 Dec
2015=
, at 00:01, Phil Harris <<a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";>phil@avaddi=
ct.tv</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote
type=3D"cite"><div><meta http=
-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html;
charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Both de=
fault to coming on 'full bright white'
... <br><br>Phil<div><br></div>=
<div>Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div></div><di=
v><br>On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:53, Wayne Harrison <a
href=3D"mailto:Wayne@plan=
etwayne.com">Wayne@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html
charset=3Dwindows-12=
52">
Hi All,<div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Following the r=
ecent AH video on Siri integration (did anyone notice the DVD of an open
fi=
re?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an interest in these Philips lights,
I=
have a quick question. If these are replacements for existing bulbs, do th=
ey work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch to turn them
on?</=
div><div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I
realise that you=
would normally use an app to operate, but if they were to be plugged in to=
a normal light socket and someone turned it off at the wall so to speak, i=
f it was next turned back on at the wall switch, do they default to
'bright=
white on=E2=80=99 - ie go to =E2=80=98normal light bulb=E2=80=99 mode? Als=
o would this the case for all the the Hue range or just the =E2=80=98bulb=
=E2=80=99 versions? (looking at the LED strip lights
also)</div><div class=
=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Hope that makes sense!</div><div=
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Cheers</div><div class=3D"=
">Wayne.</div><div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br
clas=
s=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 30 Dec =
2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris' <a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";
class=3D"=
">phil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
m" class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple=
-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div
id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"font-=
size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-style:
n=
ormal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
l=
ine-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
tex=
t-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-w=
ebkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);
positio=
n: relative;" class=3D""><div
id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;=
z-index: 1;" class=3D""><div
id=3D"ygrp-text" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em=
; font-family: Georgia;" class=3D""><p
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; margin=
: 0px 0px 1em;" class=3D"">At the moment I have the
"3 white bulb and Hue B=
ridge" starter set, the "3<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">Hue=
and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the Bloom and the
"Hue White<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">and
Wireless dimmer" set ... So=
, 1 x Bloom, 2 x Hue Bridges, 3 x Hue and<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;"=
class=3D"">Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)<br
style=3D"line-heig=
ht: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">I kee=
p looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because the Hue Bridge
seems<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">to have no
possible support for an=
ything other than lights (so no plug in<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" c=
lass=3D"">switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall
switches etc.) wher=
eas in<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">theory the Hue bulbs ca=
n be used with the SmartThings Hub directly *OR* via<br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">the Hue Bridge but what concerns
me about the SmartT=
hings is that it appears<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">to *N=
EED* the backend SmartThings server to perform its smart things (I<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">don't like the
idea of tying my home t=
o Samsungs continued goodwill at<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D=
"">keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up
swapping out one<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">smartphone / tablet based contr=
ol for another smartphone/tablet based<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D"">control ... I want to get to a position where the
tablet is only n=
eeded for<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">occasional tweaking =
rather than actual day-to-day control.<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Of course the other =
consideration has to be that I've already thrown =C2=A3300 at<br
style=3D"l=
ine-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Hue in the last two weeks
so another =C2=A3=
200 on SmartThings (when I need to now<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D"">also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the
remaining 2Tb driv=
es in my 8<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">bay Synology NAS ha=
s just failed) is getting expensive. :-D<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">At the moment I ha=
ve the Official Phlips Hue app, "Hue Mate",
"Huemote",<br style=3D"line-hei=
ght: 1.22em;" class=3D"">"OnSwitch",
"MagicHue" and "IF" installed ... have=
n't had much of a play<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">with Si=
ri control yet...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D=
"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Phil<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">-----Original Messag=
e-----<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">From:<span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"; =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com</a><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
href=
=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-famil=
y: Verdana;" class=3D"">mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]<span
class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D"">Sent: 30 December 2015 11:22<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D"">To:<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href=3D"mail=
to:ukha_d@xxxxxxx" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Verda=
na;" class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;=
" class=3D"">Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br
style=3D"line-height:=
1.22em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">Oh no! A=
big Faraday cage!<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Have you
looksed at any of the other a=
lternative to the Hue app?<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">TBH, I use
the SmartThings app t=
o control the Hue lights now - and the<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D"">smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for
basic contro=
l. Did you<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">say you have that o=
r just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't remember. Although a<br
style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">warning that the ST system is
fun and shows pote=
ntial, there are still a few<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">i=
ssues!<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Paul.<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><=
br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">From:<span class=3D"Apple-convert=
ed-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"l=
ine-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
m</a><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
href=3D"mailto:=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Verdana;=
" class=3D"">mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]<span
class=3D"Apple-convert=
ed-space"> </span><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">Sent: =
30 December 2015 11:08<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">To:<spa=
n class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yah=
oogroups.com" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Verdana;" class=3D=
"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">=
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cla=
ss=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">I thought the Bloom a=
ctually felt very solid when I unboxed it but the light<br
style=3D"line-he=
ight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">output is pretty crap ... If
you're saying that y=
our Iris do a good purple<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">(and=
therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe there's something
wrong<br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">with this
one ... Might see if I=
can get it replaced?<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br styl=
e=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">I did try
running up my CBus wireless=
yesterday and although I got<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">=
everything working and paired up on my test wiring harnesses (makes all
the=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">pairing of the switches with =
the wireless gateway much easier) when I<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" =
class=3D"">dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy
that wired thi=
s place<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">helpfully used really =
deep plasterboard boxes) I couldn't get reliable comms<br
style=3D"line-hei=
ght: 1.22em;" class=3D"">and programming ... Turns out
the whole place is d=
one even internally with<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">foil =
backed insulated board which must be blocking RF back to the gateway<br
sty=
le=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">... :-(<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.2=
2em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">Looks like t=
he mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work fine here though so<br
style=3D"l=
ine-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">I'm back to the Hue stuff
for now ... I do =
like the Geofence function on the<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=
=3D"">Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty
clunky and rather<=
br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">obstructive and difficult to n=
avigate easily. If I'm going to stick with Hue<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.2=
2em;" class=3D"">then I will need to order up a bunch
more wireless remotes=
and thinking<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">about whether it=
would be possible to 3D print up some replacement switch<br
style=3D"line-=
height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">cover blanks with receptacles
for the wireless =
dimmer switches in them to<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">mak=
e them more useable.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">One thing I did
find which is handy th=
ough ... All the light switch<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">=
locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I need to have a
look<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">and see
if I can find some nice=
wall ZigBee wall switches. :-)<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"=
"><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Just need to find a ZigBee =
capable equivalent of HomeGate (Clipsal CBus) or<br
style=3D"line-height: 1=
.22em;" class=3D"">HomeVision ... :-)<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
</span><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Phil<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Sent from another blood=
y fruit-based portable device...<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D=
""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> On 30 Dec 2015, at 10=
:20, Paul Gale<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href=3D=
"mailto:groups2@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family=
: Verdana;" class=3D"">groups2@xxxxxxx</a><span
class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space"> </span>[ukha_d]<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1=
.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wro=
te:<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-c=
onverted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">=
> I don't like the bloom much - too small and under powered. I do
have 9=
(!)<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">of the Iris lamps though =
and love them. They have cut manufacturing costs<br
style=3D"line-height: 1=
.22em;" class=3D"">significantly over the years and
they're now very plasti=
cy - used to be much<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">more styl=
ish. Still good for colouring a small wall though. Not tested CRI<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">etc but they do
pretty well on purple =
which they're mostly used on.<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">=
><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-he=
ight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> As for the White and
Hue colour bulbs (which=
they were recently rebranded<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">=
to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the re-brand, they were
updated<=
br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">slightly with a higher wattage=
LED and marginally higher light output. So<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em=
;" class=3D"">there are at least two versions out
there.<br style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> =
</span><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D"">> Paul.<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;=
" class=3D"">> -----Original Message-----<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22e=
m;" class=3D"">> From:<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span=
><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; fo=
nt-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">mailto:uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span=
><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> Sent: 28 December 2015 =
22:47<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> To:<span class=3D"A=
pple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@ya=
hoogroups.com</a><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> Subject=
: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">>=
;<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </sp=
an><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> I was a bad boy in Jo=
hn Lewis today while I was there with a mate picking<br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me)
...<br style=3D"l=
ine-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&=
nbsp;</span><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> Anyway, the =
sales are on so I ended up getting another starter kit (the<br
style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Hue White and Colour) and a
Hue Bloom (which =
of course aren't in any sales<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">=
but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...<span
class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">&g=
t;<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-heig=
ht: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> Might have been spoiled
in the past as I was u=
sing some DMX controlled<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">wall =
washers, floods and spots but they were all pretty old (at least four<br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">years) and
so hardly cutting edge. =
The colour mixing on the White and Hue<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D"">bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in
comparison - I'=
d<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">definitely query the '16 mil=
lion colours' claim, they might have 256 levels<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.=
22em;" class=3D"">for each of RGB but by God they don't
reproduce them ...<=
br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-conve=
rted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">>=
The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out Green and their Cyan
is<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">basically
a very-slightly-blue-ti=
nged-white.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" cla=
ss=3D"">> The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent
Red but Purple i=
s basically<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Light Pink and Blu=
e is really poor too ... I'm actually wondering if it<br
style=3D"line-heig=
ht: 1.22em;" class=3D"">could be faulty given that other
reviews on the Blo=
om have been very<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">complimentar=
y about its colour rendition.<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">=
><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-he=
ight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> I wonder whether the
GU10 White and Hue bulb=
s are any better ...<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-converte=
d-space"> </span><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">> Ph=
il<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">&=
gt; Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...<br
style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> --------------=
----------------------<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> Po=
sted by: Phil Harris <<a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-=
height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">phil@xxxxxxx</a>><=
br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> -------------------------=
-----------<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" cla=
ss=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D=
"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"=
> </span><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> ----------=
--------------------------<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">>=
;<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> Yahoo Groups Links<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.2=
2em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em=
;" class=3D"">------------------------------------<br
style=3D"line-height:=
1.22em;" class=3D"">Posted by: Phil Harris <<a
href=3D"mailto:phil@avad=
dict.tv" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Verdana;" class=3D"">ph=
il@xxxxxxx</a>><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">-------=
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