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The thing is that component price isn't directly related to selling price
-=
so no, they won't be =C2=A336 more expensive to build but I would guess th=
at build / packaging cost on them will be about a tenner and then that
bubb=
les through on margins.
Phil
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
> On 31 Dec 2015, at 14:54, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The Hue Lux bulbs have now been rebranded to Hue White. Was a bit
confusi=
ng but makes more sense now with Hue White and Hue Colour and White bulbs.=
=20
>=20
> Not tried the GU10's - when you have a GU10 fixture with 4 lamps, it
gets=
a bit pricey at =C2=A350 per lamp!!!
>=20
> Although I love the Hue Colour and White lamps, I think they're a bit
ove=
r priced at =C2=A350 compared to =C2=A314 ish for the white only. After
all=
, the difference in component price certainly won't be =C2=A336!
>=20
> On 31 Dec 2015, at 07:03, Phil Harris phil@xxxxxxx [ukha_d]
<ukha_d@y=
ahoogroups.com> wrote:
>=20
>> Reading this when I'm not half asleep - there are two versions of
the bu=
lbs, Hue Lux and Hue White and Colour ... The Hue Lux are the simple white
=
ones that dim and the Hue White and Colour dim and change colour. Both of
t=
hose, if turned off and then back on again, come on at full brightness
whit=
e.
>>=20
>> I presume the GU10 ones do as well as they are also intended as
lightbul=
b replacements - I.e. For illuminating rather than for accenting.
>>=20
>> The Accent lights however (Bloom, Iris, Hue Strip) are not
suitable for =
illuminating a room and therefore don't attempt to do so when they are
turn=
ed off and then on again ... My Bloom seems to come back on at what it was
=
last set to - if it was on at a colour then it seems to come back on at
tha=
t colour, if it was off them it seems to do a quick rainbow cycle and
rever=
ts to off ... But as these are supposed to be accent lights then I think
th=
at's reasonable.
>>=20
>> Phil
>>=20
>> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>>=20
>> On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:01, Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Both default to coming on 'full bright white' ...=20
>>>=20
>>> Phil
>>>=20
>>> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>>>=20
>>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:53, Wayne Harrison Wayne@xxxxxxx
[ukha_d]=
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>=20
>>>> Following the recent AH video on Siri integration (did
anyone notice t=
he DVD of an open fire?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an interest in
the=
se Philips lights, I have a quick question. If these are replacements for
e=
xisting bulbs, do they work like a standard bulb if you use the light
switc=
h to turn them on?
>>>>=20
>>>> I realise that you would normally use an app to operate,
but if they w=
ere to be plugged in to a normal light socket and someone turned it off at
=
the wall so to speak, if it was next turned back on at the wall switch, do
=
they default to 'bright white on=E2=80=99 - ie go to =E2=80=98normal light
=
bulb=E2=80=99 mode? Also would this the case for all the the Hue range or
j=
ust the =E2=80=98bulb=E2=80=99 versions? (looking at the LED strip lights
a=
lso)
>>>>=20
>>>> Hope that makes sense!
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris' phil@xxxxxxx
[ukha_d] <uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> At the moment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue
Bridge" starter set, t=
he "3
>>>>> Hue and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set,
the Bloom and the "Hu=
e White
>>>>> and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x Bloom, 2 x
Hue Bridges, 3 x Hue =
and
>>>>> Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I keep looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because
the Hue Bridge=
seems
>>>>> to have no possible support for anything other than
lights (so no plu=
g in
>>>>> switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall switches
etc.) whereas =
in
>>>>> theory the Hue bulbs can be used with the SmartThings
Hub directly *O=
R* via
>>>>> the Hue Bridge but what concerns me about the
SmartThings is that it =
appears
>>>>> to *NEED* the backend SmartThings server to perform
its smart things =
(I
>>>>> don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs
continued goodwill a=
t
>>>>> keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up
swapping out on=
e
>>>>> smartphone / tablet based control for another
smartphone/tablet based
>>>>> control ... I want to get to a position where the
tablet is only need=
ed for
>>>>> occasional tweaking rather than actual day-to-day
control.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Of course the other consideration has to be that I've
already thrown =
=C2=A3300 at
>>>>> Hue in the last two weeks so another =C2=A3200 on
SmartThings (when I=
need to now
>>>>> also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the
remaining 2Tb drives =
in my 8
>>>>> bay Synology NAS has just failed) is getting
expensive. :-D
>>>>>=20
>>>>> At the moment I have the Official Phlips Hue app,
"Hue Mate", "Huemot=
e",
>>>>> "OnSwitch", "MagicHue" and
"IF" installed ... haven't had much of a p=
lay
>>>>> with Siri control yet...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>>> Sent: 30 December 2015 11:22
>>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Oh no! A big Faraday cage!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Have you looksed at any of the other alternative to
the Hue app?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue
lights now - and th=
e
>>>>> smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for
basic control. =
Did you
>>>>> say you have that or just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't
remember. Alth=
ough a
>>>>> warning that the ST system is fun and shows potential,
there are stil=
l a few
>>>>> issues!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>>> Sent: 30 December 2015 11:08
>>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I thought the Bloom actually felt very solid when I
unboxed it but th=
e light
>>>>> output is pretty crap ... If you're saying that your
Iris do a good p=
urple
>>>>> (and therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe
there's somethin=
g wrong
>>>>> with this one ... Might see if I can get it replaced?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and
although I got
>>>>> everything working and paired up on my test wiring
harnesses (makes a=
ll the
>>>>> pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway much
easier) when I
>>>>> dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy that
wired this pla=
ce
>>>>> helpfully used really deep plasterboard boxes) I
couldn't get reliabl=
e comms
>>>>> and programming ... Turns out the whole place is done
even internally=
with
>>>>> foil backed insulated board which must be blocking RF
back to the gat=
eway
>>>>> ... :-(
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Looks like the mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work
fine here thoug=
h so
>>>>> I'm back to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the
Geofence function=
on the
>>>>> Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty
clunky and rather
>>>>> obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm
going to stick w=
ith Hue
>>>>> then I will need to order up a bunch more wireless
remotes and thinki=
ng
>>>>> about whether it would be possible to 3D print up some
replacement sw=
itch
>>>>> cover blanks with receptacles for the wireless dimmer
switches in the=
m to
>>>>> make them more useable.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> One thing I did find which is handy though ... All the
light switch
>>>>> locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I
need to have a =
look
>>>>> and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall
switches. :-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of
HomeGate (Clipsal CB=
us) or
>>>>> HomeVision ... :-)=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> > On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale
groups2@xxxxxxx [ukha_=
d]
>>>>> <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > I don't like the bloom much - too small and under
powered. I do hav=
e 9 (!)
>>>>> of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have cut
manufacturing c=
osts
>>>>> significantly over the years and they're now very
plasticy - used to =
be much
>>>>> more stylish. Still good for colouring a small wall
though. Not teste=
d CRI
>>>>> etc but they do pretty well on purple which they're
mostly used on.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > As for the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they
were recently reb=
randed
>>>>> to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the
re-brand, they were up=
dated
>>>>> slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally
higher light output=
. So
>>>>> there are at least two versions out there.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Paul.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>>>>> > Sent: 28 December 2015 22:47
>>>>> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>>>> > Subject: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while I was
there with a mate p=
icking
>>>>> up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me) ...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Anyway, the sales are on so I ended up getting
another starter kit =
(the
>>>>> Hue White and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course
aren't in any =
sales
>>>>> but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Might have been spoiled in the past as I was
using some DMX control=
led
>>>>> wall washers, floods and spots but they were all
pretty old (at least=
four
>>>>> years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing
on the White and=
Hue
>>>>> bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in
comparison - I'd
>>>>> definitely query the '16 million colours' claim, they
might have 256 =
levels
>>>>> for each of RGB but by God they don't reproduce them
...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out
Green and their Cyan=
is
>>>>> basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent Red
but Purple is bas=
ically
>>>>> Light Pink and Blue is really poor too ... I'm
actually wondering if =
it
>>>>> could be faulty given that other reviews on the Bloom
have been very
>>>>> complimentary about its colour rendition.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > I wonder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are
any better ...=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Phil
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>> > Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > ------------------------------------
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>> >=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>> Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>> Posted by: Paul Gale <paul@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Yahoo Groups Links
>>>>>=20
>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>>=20
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<div>The thing is that component price isn't directly related to
selling pr=
ice - so no, they won't be =C2=A336 more expensive to build but I would
gue=
ss that build / packaging cost on them will be about a tenner and then
that=
bubbles through on
margins.<br><br>Phil<div><br></div><div>Sent
from anoth=
er bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div></div><div><br>On 31 Dec 2015=
, at 14:54, Paul Gale <a href=3D"mailto:groups2@xxxxxxx";>groups2@s=
iliconpixel.com</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
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252">
<div>The Hue Lux bulbs have now been rebranded to Hue White. Was a
bit conf=
using but makes more sense now with Hue White and Hue Colour and White
bulb=
s. </div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Not tried the GU10's - when
you have a GU10 =
fixture with 4 lamps, it gets a bit pricey at =C2=A350 per
lamp!!!</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Although I love the Hue
Colour and White lam=
ps, I think they're a bit over priced at =C2=A350 compared to =C2=A314 ish
=
for the white only. After all, the difference in component price certainly
=
won't be =C2=A336!</div>
<div><br>
On 31 Dec 2015, at 07:03, Phil Harris <a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";>p=
hil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div><span></span></div>
<div>
<div>Reading this when I'm not half asleep - there are two versions
of the =
bulbs, Hue Lux and Hue White and Colour ... The Hue Lux are the simple
whit=
e ones that dim and the Hue White and Colour dim and change colour. Both
of=
those, if turned off and then back
on again, come on at full brightness white.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I presume the GU10 ones do as well as they are also intended as
lightb=
ulb replacements - I.e. For illuminating rather than for
accenting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Accent lights however (Bloom, Iris, Hue Strip) are not
suitable fo=
r illuminating a room and therefore don't attempt to do so when they are
tu=
rned off and then on again ... My Bloom seems to come back on at what it
wa=
s last set to - if it was on at
a colour then it seems to come back on at that colour, if it was off them =
it seems to do a quick rainbow cycle and reverts to off ... But as these
ar=
e supposed to be accent lights then I think that's reasonable.</div>
<div><br>
<div>Phil
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:01, Phil Harris <<a href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx=
v">phil@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div>Both default to coming on 'full bright white'
... <br>
<br>
Phil
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:53, Wayne Harrison <a href=3D"mailto:Wayne@planetwayn=
e.com">Wayne@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>Hi All,
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Following the recent AH video on Siri
integration (did anyo=
ne notice the DVD of an open fire?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an
inte=
rest in these Philips lights, I have a quick question. If these are
replace=
ments for existing bulbs, do they
work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch to turn them
on?</di=
v>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">I realise that you would normally use an
app to operate, bu=
t if they were to be plugged in to a normal light socket and someone
turned=
it off at the wall so to speak, if it was next turned back on at the wall =
switch, do they default to 'bright
white on=E2=80=99 - ie go to =E2=80=98normal light bulb=E2=80=99 mode? Als=
o would this the case for all the the Hue range or just the =E2=80=98bulb=
=E2=80=99 versions? (looking at the LED strip lights also)</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Hope that makes sense!</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Cheers</div>
<div class=3D"">Wayne.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On 30 Dec 2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris'
<a href=3D"mailto:p=
hil@xxxxxxx" class=3D"">
phil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"=
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"
class=3D"">At the mo=
ment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the
"3<br style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Hue and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the Bloom and the
"Hue Whit=
e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x Bloom, 2 x Hue Bridges, 3 x Hue
and<br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;"=
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
I keep looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because the Hue Bridge
seems=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
to have no possible support for anything other than lights (so no plug
in<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall switches etc.) whereas
in<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
theory the Hue bulbs can be used with the SmartThings Hub directly *OR*
via=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
the Hue Bridge but what concerns me about the SmartThings is that it
appear=
s<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
to *NEED* the backend SmartThings server to perform its smart things
(I<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs continued goodwill
at<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up swapping out
one<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
smartphone / tablet based control for another smartphone/tablet based<br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
control ... I want to get to a position where the tablet is only needed
for=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
occasional tweaking rather than actual day-to-day control.<br
style=3D"line=
-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Of course the other consideration has to be that I've already thrown
=C2=A3=
300 at<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
Hue in the last two weeks so another =C2=A3200 on SmartThings (when I need
=
to now<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the remaining 2Tb drives in my
=
8<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
bay Synology NAS has just failed) is getting expensive. :-D<br
style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
At the moment I have the Official Phlips Hue app, "Hue Mate",
"Huemote",<br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
"OnSwitch", "MagicHue" and "IF" installed ...
haven't had much of a play<br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
with Siri control yet...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Phil<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
-----Original Message-----<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">
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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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Oh no! A big Faraday cage!<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Have you looksed at any of the other alternative to the Hue app?<br
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TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue lights now - and
the<br s=
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smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for basic control. Did
yo=
u<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
say you have that or just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't remember. Although
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
warning that the ST system is fun and shows potential, there are still a
fe=
w<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
issues!<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Paul.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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Sent: 30 December 2015 11:08<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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To:<span
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Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
I thought the Bloom actually felt very solid when I unboxed it but the
ligh=
t<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
output is pretty crap ... If you're saying that your Iris do a good
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(and therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe there's something
wron=
g<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
with this one ... Might see if I can get it replaced?<br
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and although I got<br
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everything working and paired up on my test wiring harnesses (makes all
the=
<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway much easier) when I<br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy that wired this
place<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
helpfully used really deep plasterboard boxes) I couldn't get reliable
comm=
s<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
and programming ... Turns out the whole place is done even internally
with<=
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foil backed insulated board which must be blocking RF back to the
gateway<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
... :-(<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Looks like the mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work fine here though
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I'm back to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the Geofence function on
th=
e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty clunky and rather<br
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obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm going to stick with
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e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
then I will need to order up a bunch more wireless remotes and
thinking<br =
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about whether it would be possible to 3D print up some replacement
switch<b=
r style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
cover blanks with receptacles for the wireless dimmer switches in them
to<b=
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make them more useable.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
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<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
One thing I did find which is handy though ... All the light switch<br
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locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I need to have a
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and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall switches. :-)<br
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Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of HomeGate (Clipsal CBus)
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HomeVision ... :-)<span
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Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...<br
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> On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale<span
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> I don't like the bloom much - too small and under powered. I do
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of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have cut manufacturing
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significantly over the years and they're now very plasticy - used to be
muc=
h<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
more stylish. Still good for colouring a small wall though. Not tested
CRI<=
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etc but they do pretty well on purple which they're mostly used on.<br
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> As for the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they were recently
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to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the re-brand, they were
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slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally higher light output.
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> From:<span
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> Subject: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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> I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while I was there with a mate
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up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me) ...<br style=3D"line-height:
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> Anyway, the sales are on so I ended up getting another starter kit
(th=
e<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Hue White and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course aren't in any
sales<=
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but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...<span
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> Might have been spoiled in the past as I was using some DMX
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wall washers, floods and spots but they were all pretty old (at least
four<=
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years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing on the White and
Hue<b=
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bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in comparison - I'd<br
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definitely query the '16 million colours' claim, they might have 256
levels=
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for each of RGB but by God they don't reproduce them ...<br
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> The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out Green and their
Cyan is=
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basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.<br
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> The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent Red but Purple is
basica=
lly<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">
Light Pink and Blue is really poor too ... I'm actually wondering if
it<br =
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could be faulty given that other reviews on the Bloom have been very<br
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complimentary about its colour rendition.<br style=3D"line-height:
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> I wonder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are any better
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