Re: [OT] Office X-serve vs windows standard server 2008

["Ho Yin Ng" <architect.hoyin@xxxxxxxxx>]

But if I cancel I still have all the equipment sitting in my office
which someone else will need to maintain and service?

So therefore if I go for Xserves I may be limited to the people that
could service them?

Ho-Yin

2008/10/17 Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@xxxxxxx>:
> Ho-Yin
>
> Paul is right on this. If you are buying a Service from the support
> consultancy the underlying technology should not matter. If you are
> able to write down simple requirements that meet the business needs
> then technology does not come into it.
>
> Very Simple Example (No basis on fact, used to illustrate the example)
>
> MAPI based email supporting Outlook Clients
> 50 Users
> Uptime of 99.99 08:00 to 18:00 Monday to Friday
> Maintenance completed out of hours with 3 days notice given
> New users added within 48 hours
> Users deleted within 48 hours of request being received.
> =A3500 per month
> If SLA is not met for 2 months running you have the right to cancel.
>
> In this instance does it matter what the technology is? If a teas-maid
> could deliver the above then you would be happy.
>
> Worth thinking about what the business needs. Start your thoughts
there.
>
> regards
> Ben
>
> On 17 Oct 2008, at 15:13, Ho Yin Ng wrote:
>
>> I still care!!!
>>
>> It is my money!
>>
>> We still have to buy the products. I just want to be aware of the
>> limitations if any or perhaps advantageous of one system over
another.
>>
>> I've been duped in the past and forked out for a system that
severely
>> let me down.
>>
>> I think both provide the service we require, but surely one must
be
>> better or offer us something that the other cannot.
>>
>> Ho-Yin
>>
>> 2008/10/17 Paul Gordon <paul@xxxxxxx>:
>> > Hmm... in that case, aren't you going be paying for SERVICES
>> rather than
>> > PRODUCTS? - If it's all outsourced, do you actually care what
it
>> runs on,
>> > provided you stipulate your requirements to the solution
provider,
>> and they
>> > meet them?....
>> >
>> > E.G: if you state your requirements to be:
>> >
>> > Identity management for your 45 users
>> > Access control & authentication
>> > Private storage allocation for each user (home directories)
>> > Shared storage between all users
>> > MAPI based email supporting Outlook clients
>> > Collaboration between users (calendar sharing, free/busy info
etc)
>> > Shared printing facilities
>> > Policy-based management of the workstations
>> > .
>> > .
>> > .
>> > etc...
>> >
>> > And the man from DelMonte, he say "yes", - and it
fits your SLA
>> > requirements, and budget, then do you (or should you) care
(or
>> even know)
>> > what the underlying platforms are?
>> >
>> > Paul G.
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx on behalf of Ho Yin Ng
>> > Sent: Fri 17/10/2008 14:41
>> > To: UKHA Group
>> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] [OT] Office X-serve vs windows standard
>> server 2008
>> >
>> > Currently we would be outsourcing all our IT to a support
>> consultancy.
>> >
>> > I have no in-house IT manager etc.
>> >
>> > 2008/10/17 Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@xxxxxxx>:
>> >> Ho-Yin
>> >>
>> >> Simple question - Do you have anyone within the company
who can
>> >> support the XServe and OSX?
>> >>
>> >> Ben
>> >>
>> >> On 17 Oct 2008, at 13:39, Ho Yin Ng wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have had several consultants look at my office and
they are
>> >>> suggesting two different approaches.
>> >>>
>> >>> One is saying we should use an Apple Xserve rather
than a windows
>> >>> machine.
>> >>>
>> >>> They state that the SBS requires to be the controller
of
>> everything
>> >>> and does not play well with others. Whereas the
Xserve provides a
>> >>> lower total cost of ownership when compared to MS
server and
>> provides
>> >>> similar services and will integrate seamlessly with
the exchange
>> >>> server.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can anyone shed any light on this?
>> >>>
>> >>> We are a 45 strong office looking to expand.
Currently we only run
>> >>> Windows PCs, but we many have a couple of Macs later.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Xserve seems cheaper than a similar HP DL360 5450
others are
>> >>> proposing.
>> >>>
>> >>> Be interesting to get your opinion on this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Ho-Yin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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