RE: CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem

["Paul Gordon" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Indeed, I thought I'd probably get a rollocking for such heresy!...

I guess as an academic exercise in programming CBUS, it's a perfectly good
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one. Plus I guess if there just happens to be spare capacity ona 4-channel
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output unit, then why not...

Paul G.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Mike Griffiths
> Sent: 22 July 2008 18:35
> To: UKHA Group
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> Slippery slope Paul
> Everything surely must be Automated ;-)
> Mike
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Paul Gordon
> Sent: 22 July 2008 13:18
> To: UKHA Group
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> I know I should probably hung as a heretic for saying this but...
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> Wouldn't it have been massively simpler & cheaper to use a
dedicated
> plunger switch of the type designed for *exactly* this purpose?... - I
> have this arrangement on my "pantry" door in the kitchen
(despite there
> being a CBUS panel in that very room). The switch cost almost nothing,
> - =A32 or =A33 IIRC, when the door is open the light is on, when the
door
> is closed the light is off. Simple, reliable, cheap.  With CBUS
costing
> something in the order of =A3100/channel it seemed absurd to me to use
it
> for such a "noddy" application where the fact of it being
CBUS added no
> extra functionality or useability over & above that provided by a
> simple mechanical switch. - Just IMHO of course!
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> Take a look around any Ikea or MFI or the like these days, and all the
> wardrobes they sell have this arrangement as an option...
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> I *am* a big CBUS fan by the way!
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> Paul G.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of Andrew Walker
> > Sent: 22 July 2008 11:31
> > To: UKHA Group
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming
problem
> >
> > Thanks Martin, sounds good.
> >
> > Its amazing how something as simple as controlling lights with a
door
> > switch can get you so excited, can't wait to get home and try it.
> >
> > Hate to think how I'll be when I get my Home Vision up and
running
> and
> > CBUS/Sonos integration, oooh, aarrr.
> >
> > SWMBO simply thinks its nice, so difficult to please !!!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of Martin McCreesh
> > Sent: 22 July 2008 11:20
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming
problem
> >
> > If you are using the on\off(toggle) function on the button you
could
> be
> > getting switch bounce ie. your door contact bounces the switch
onand
> > off
> > before quite making the final contact  - try adjusting bounce
> settings
> > in the global parameters advanced dialong in toolkit.
> >
> > As to doing what you want with the light timing out I think
you'll
> need
> > a custom key config.
> > In the channel functions (advanced) dialog set up your own key
> > functions
> >
> >
> > Short press - ramp recall 1      - set recall 1 to 100% in blocks
> > section- this will slowly ramp the light on when contact is first
> made
> > Short release - off                 - if door closes - light off
> > immediately
> > Long press - retirgger timer - set timer time and trigger
function as
> > off in the blocks section Long release - off
> >
> > If you are confused with this email me directly will send a
screen
> shot
> >
> > I havent tested this but it might work!!!
> >
> > So door opens making contact - short press fires which is ramp
lights
> > on
> > - long press fires if door remains open so a timer is set for 2
> minutes
> > to turn light off At any time if door closed the contact is
opened so
> > long or short release is fired turning off light,
> >
> > Let us know if it works,
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Phil Harris
> >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >   Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:01 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming
> problem
> >
> >
> >
> >   You need to set the button action on the bus coupler to be a
bell
> > press
> >   rather than a toggle however if the momentary switches that you
are
> > using
> >   on the doors are "make" when the door is closed and
"break" when
> the
> > door
> >   is open then you may find that the action is the wrong way
round
> and
> > the
> >   light only comes on when the doors are closed...
> >
> >   Phil
> >
> >   > I've put this on the CBUS forums but not much response so
can I
> ask
> >   > you guys.
> >   >
> >   > I have connected a bus coupler to a micro switch on a
bedroom
> > wardrobe
> >   > door and paralleld the connections to another micro-switch
on the
> > 2nd
> >   > door. I have set the contacts so that opening the door
makes the
> > circuit.
> >   >
> >   > I would like opening the door to control the under cabinet
> lighting
> > I
> >   > have put in the wardrobe.
> >   >
> >   > I have had a play with the toolkit but can not get the
operation
> >   > exactly how I would like.
> >   >
> >   > It seems to me that a single toggle operation is a
complete
> > sequence
> >   > of the contacts closing and then opening again. This makes
the
> > light
> >   > come on when the door is opened, however it stays on when
the
> door
> > is
> >   > closed but then opening it again is a 2nd toggle which
makes it
> go
> > off
> >   > which is completely wrong.
> >   >
> >   > I can't figure out the correct toolkit settings. I guess
that a
> > short
> >   > button press is not an issue with a bus coupler.
> >   >
> >   > My ideal operation would be door opening triggers lights
to ramp
> on
> >   > over 4 seconds and a timer which turns them off after 2
mins if
> the
> >   > door is left open. Also, the door closing turns them off
> > immediately.
> >   >
> >   > Can this be done with a bus-coupler, I don't have a PAC?
> >   >
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