RE: CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem

["Mike Griffiths" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Slippery slope Paul
Everything surely must be Automated ;-)
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of P=
aul Gordon
Sent: 22 July 2008 13:18
To: UKHA Group
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem

I know I should probably hung as a heretic for saying this but...

Wouldn't it have been massively simpler & cheaper to use a dedicated
plunge=
r switch of the type designed for *exactly* this purpose?... - I have this
=
arrangement on my "pantry" door in the kitchen (despite there
being a CBUS =
panel in that very room). The switch cost almost nothing, - =A32 or =A33
II=
RC, when the door is open the light is on, when the door is closed the
ligh=
t is off. Simple, reliable, cheap.  With CBUS costing something in the
orde=
r of =A3100/channel it seemed absurd to me to use it for such a
"noddy" app=
lication where the fact of it being CBUS added no extra functionality or
us=
eability over & above that provided by a simple mechanical switch. -
Just I=
MHO of course!

Take a look around any Ikea or MFI or the like these days, and all the
ward=
robes they sell have this arrangement as an option...

I *am* a big CBUS fan by the way!

Paul G.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Walker
> Sent: 22 July 2008 11:31
> To: UKHA Group
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> Thanks Martin, sounds good.
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> Its amazing how something as simple as controlling lights with a door
> switch can get you so excited, can't wait to get home and try it.
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> Hate to think how I'll be when I get my Home Vision up and running and
> CBUS/Sonos integration, oooh, aarrr.
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> SWMBO simply thinks its nice, so difficult to please !!!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Martin McCreesh
> Sent: 22 July 2008 11:20
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> If you are using the on\off(toggle) function on the button you could
be
> getting switch bounce ie. your door contact bounces the switch onand
> off
> before quite making the final contact  - try adjusting bounce settings
> in the global parameters advanced dialong in toolkit.
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> As to doing what you want with the light timing out I think you'll
need
> a custom key config.
> In the channel functions (advanced) dialog set up your own key
> functions
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> Short press - ramp recall 1      - set recall 1 to 100% in blocks
> section- this will slowly ramp the light on when contact is first made
> Short release - off                 - if door closes - light off
> immediately
> Long press - retirgger timer - set timer time and trigger function as
> off in the blocks section Long release - off
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> If you are confused with this email me directly will send a screen
shot
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> I havent tested this but it might work!!!
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> So door opens making contact - short press fires which is ramp lights
> on
> - long press fires if door remains open so a timer is set for 2
minutes
> to turn light off At any time if door closed the contact is opened so
> long or short release is fired turning off light,
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> Let us know if it works,
> Martin
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Phil Harris
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:01 AM
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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>   You need to set the button action on the bus coupler to be a bell
> press
>   rather than a toggle however if the momentary switches that you are
> using
>   on the doors are "make" when the door is closed and
"break" when the
> door
>   is open then you may find that the action is the wrong way round and
> the
>   light only comes on when the doors are closed...
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>   Phil
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>   > I've put this on the CBUS forums but not much response so can I
ask
>   > you guys.
>   >
>   > I have connected a bus coupler to a micro switch on a bedroom
> wardrobe
>   > door and paralleld the connections to another micro-switch on
the
> 2nd
>   > door. I have set the contacts so that opening the door makes
the
> circuit.
>   >
>   > I would like opening the door to control the under cabinet
lighting
> I
>   > have put in the wardrobe.
>   >
>   > I have had a play with the toolkit but can not get the
operation
>   > exactly how I would like.
>   >
>   > It seems to me that a single toggle operation is a complete
> sequence
>   > of the contacts closing and then opening again. This makes the
> light
>   > come on when the door is opened, however it stays on when the
door
> is
>   > closed but then opening it again is a 2nd toggle which makes it
go
> off
>   > which is completely wrong.
>   >
>   > I can't figure out the correct toolkit settings. I guess that a
> short
>   > button press is not an issue with a bus coupler.
>   >
>   > My ideal operation would be door opening triggers lights to
ramp on
>   > over 4 seconds and a timer which turns them off after 2 mins if
the
>   > door is left open. Also, the door closing turns them off
> immediately.
>   >
>   > Can this be done with a bus-coupler, I don't have a PAC?
>   >
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