RE: Re: Lighting Options ....

["Paul Gale" <groups2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I didn't mean to in any shape or form put you off - I my case it
wasn't easy due to the layout of the existing wiring - but it's absolutely
worth it as CBus is so flexible :)

And just to re-iterate my latest post - do have a look at the Aux Input
modules too - these can turn a standard momentary push switch into a CBus
input with great success. I went a bit overboard and now have 14 x DLT LCD
switches in most prominent locations but in areas that aren't so important
(2,3,4th guest bedrooms) I kept the old Wandsworth momentary switches. All
works very nicely together.

Paul.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of rb_ziggy
> Sent: 16 January 2008 21:38
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Lighting Options ....
>
> Ah!!!  Just replied to Paul thinking it was not possible.
>
> You are right, we have X10 DIN rail modules in cabinets in a central
> location exactly as you describe.  All of these use dedicated
> momentary switches at normal wall locations.  And we have 'spare' runs
> of cat5 to a limited number of switch locations.
>
> Swapping out the X10 dimmers for CBUS units should be 'reasonably'
> straightforward.
>
> And the bus couplers sound the business for the switch end.
>
> I'll have a look at the wireless version.  But I guess they are the
> more expensive end.
>
> So, it looks like I'll have to do some proper research now.
>
> Richard
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "paul_watkin" <groups@...>
wrote:
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > I am not 100% familiar with X10 having gone down the CBUS route
from
> > the outset but if I understand you correctly you already have the
X10
> > dimmers etc DIN mounted in the electrical cabinets and I am
assuming
> > each output goes to the specific load under control.
> >
> > If that is the case could you not swap the X10 Dimmers for CBUS
> > versions and then use a combination of CBUS Wireless (for areas
of
> > the house that would be difficult to run cat5 to), Bus couplers
> > (allow the use of conventional momentary switches to control CBUS
> > loads) and hard wired CBUS in order to minimise the ammount of
> > retrofit needed.
> >
> > Admittedley this approach may be more costly than an out and out
> > Wired installation but would give lower installation hassle
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale" <groups2@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Richard,
> > >
> > > I did indeed replace the X10 with CBus - but it wasn't a
simple
> > job. When I installed the X10 system, we did a retro-install and
> > changed a lot of the house wiring. We had to modify a fair bit of
> > this to accommodate the new CBus install. Running Cat5/CBus cable
> > could also be an issue - we used a mix of existing Cat5 (that I'd
> > previously run to some light switches and also a lot of new pink
CBus
> > cable. So unfortunately, it's not a simple swap X10 for CBus
install
> :
> > (
> > >
> > > Ben here on the list did the work for me - took about 5 x 12
hr
> > days to do it. The system is not yet fully complete - the loft
> > conversion will also be added in shortly - this has 2 x high wire
LV
> > systems, bathroom LV lights, 6 x 5A dedicated lighting sockets
and 3
> > x sets of RGB LED stainless steel floor marker lights
(controllable
> > via DMX).
> > >
> > > HTH a bit?
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of rb_ziggy
> > > > Sent: 15 January 2008 23:45
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Lighting Options ....
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > Did you replace the X10 with CBus?  I've an X10 based
system
> > using DIN
> > > >  modules with momentary wall switches and was wondering
if its
> > > > possible to switch to X10 without massive rewiring
(i.e.
> hopefully
> > > > switch out the X10 modules for CBus ones in the
cabinets.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested in your experiences.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale"
<groups2@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have CBus here too now (for the last 3-4 months)
- reasonably
> > big
> > > > install (although not quite on the Wembley scale!) as
it does
> > every
> > > > light in the house plus bedside lamps, fans etc etc.
Also VERY
> > good
> > > > for automation if you want to go down that route - I
have mine
> > talking
> > > > to HomeVision HA controller and xAP protocol via one of
Kevin
> > Hawkins'
> > > > EXCELLENT CBus/xAP/HV gateways :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I used to have a whole house X10 system using
AD10's and LD11's
> > but
> > > > decided to replace it with CBus as the X10 was a bit
unreliable
> at
> > > > times.
> > > > >
> > > > > CBUS = HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of Rob Mouser
> > > > > > Sent: 14 January 2008 09:42
> > > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Lighting Options ....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have to echo the comments on C-bus. We have
two houses with
> > C-
> > > > bus.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > oldest install is now more than 5 years old
and has NEVER
> > missed a
> > > > > > beat.
> > > > > > Its simple enough to install and configure
yourself (provided
> > your
> > > > > > competent with electrics and of course Part P
bla bla bla)
> > and is
> > > > rock
> > > > > > solid.
> > > > > > Also once you've had the benefit of PIR,
Light Level sensors
> > etc
> > > > and
> > > > > > also scene's you'll never quite bring
yourself to use a
> rocker
> > > > switch
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > rotary dimmer <shudder> :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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