Re: RFID Flap Silences Security Researchers

["Robert L Bass" <no-sales-spam@bassburglaralarms>]

> "We?"  Did you poll the newsgroup?

No.

> Inherit a kingdom?

Yes.

> Develop a dual personality?

No, I didn't but I did.

> Or are you just trying on the schtick of
> some others here who also try to sound
> more authoritative by implying they're
> somehow able to speak for the group?

Nope.  I don't speak for anyone but myself
(and my various personalities:)).

> It's never a good idea to point to your lack
> of knowledge of a subject as an indicator
> of anything other than your lack of
> knowledge of a subject.  (-:

Hmm.  Getting a bit testy, are we?


> While I don't have time to go over the
> numerous other errors in your post...

Not having time doesn't prove anything
other than not having time.

> I do have time to point out, again, that
> "skimming" is a very well-known criminal
> practice...

Skimming devices have one flaw that so far
makes them useless for RFID scanning.
They don't interface with the real reader.
Therefor the person who inserts a card into
the false front does not get any money out
of the ATM.  If applied to an RFID access
control reader the person using a card
would not get in to work.  This would result in a
slew of complaints from valid users that
they can't open the door.  This in turn would
result in someone checking and discovering
the device.  Any RFID cards "skimmed"
would be taken out of service right away.

> whether "youse guys" (whomever they are)

Sorry, I don't spaek Joysey.

> know about it or not.  For your edification,
> I'll provide one of a the first dozen URLs to
> describe card skimming:

You can provide lots more if you like.  The
technique would not work well on an access
control reader.

> ... you assumed we were talking about entry
> RFID systems when clearly I was talking about
> Paypass and credit cards with RFID chips
> embedded in them from the very beginning of
> my post.

I don't deal with credit card processing.  I do deal
with access control systems though and that is
what I was speaking of.  I think I mentioned
something to that effect, no?

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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