Re: d-day

["John J. Bengii" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have been slowly changing over to CFLs. After removing my 1600 watts
of solar panel supplement, I find my bills even lower now with the CFL
conversions. I am quite impressed.

However, everything comes with a tradeoff.
The energy bill at my home is not the only factor. How much extra
energy is taken to produce these alien shaped lamps? If the cost is
any indication the energy savings, I may never break even, with the
mercury I will be dispersing into the environment, from these
environmental Molitov Cocktails screwed in everywhere.

The electrical utilities will hate them with the 3rd order harmonics
they produce. Our utilities uses neutral reactors that will turn the
currnt harmonics into voltage harmonics for the consumer on the
system. See how your motors like the extra heating.


"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Frank Olson <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Bill Kearney wrote:
>>>> Dave Houston is a "cantankerous old curmudgeon" who's been one of
>>>> the more
>>>> helpful posters in this (and other groups) concerning home
>>>> automation and
>>>> X-10.
>>>
>>> True, but Dave's way off base with this nonsense.  And, as usual,
>>> you do
>>> nothing other than pile on to throw insults at Bass.
>>>
>>> For some strange reason Dave's gotten a wild hare up his ass and
>>> just hates
>>> CF lighting.  Who knows why, and who really cares anyway.
>>
>>
>>Seems to me the one "throwing insults" is Bass.  As usual.
>>Everything
>>I've stated is the truth.  You have only to examine Bass' USENET
>>history
>>(links available on request).
>>
>>I don't much like CFL lighting either.  It's come a long way mind
>>you.
>>We have a couple of crystal chandeliers in our house.   Somehow, I
>>just
>>don't think CFL's would look right in them.
>
> Kearney is one of the many folks here who flunked "reading and
> comprehension". I have nothing against CFL lighting and have never
> said it
> doesn't save electricity. CFLs have been available for more than 20
> years
> and consumers have proven that they don't want them by giving them
> only a 5%
> market share. Now, they're being forced on eveyone.
>
> My sole problem is with the numbers used by those who try to tell us
> it's
> going to make a big difference in combatting global warming. Anybody
> can do
> the math - it's about 5th grade level. I've posted statistics from
> DOE while
> the proponents have merely resorted to distortion, name calling and
> character assasination. At best, CFLs might reduce US electrical use
> by
> 5-6%. Electricity generation from coal accounts for about 40% of
> carbon
> dioxide emissions. The reduction will be wiped out by about one
> year's worth
> of normal growth in electricity use (which will most likely be
> generated by
> burning coal). Do the math.
>
> There are other massive changes in lifestyle that will need to be
> made to
> deal with global warming and all the BS about CFLs saving the world
> is
> counter productive, merely postponing the inevitable.
>
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