Re: X-10 commands via Harmony remote?

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

No! If the RF is for Z-Wave it will be useless for any other RF based HA
application. You need the same frequency and same type of modulation.

"CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Well, the RF compatibility of the 890 certainly makes it optimal for HA
>applications. If they do provide for some way to set it up with the IR543,
>then maybe I'll take the plunge.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Craig
>
>
>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:4396c377.78731542@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> In the past they could only be programmed by downloading from their online
>> database. Perhaps that has changed. I haven't paid much attention to it in
>> the past few years.
>>
>> If you can find one, a refurbished Pronto TSU3000 (not color) costs less
>> than $200. It's far more programmable.
>>
>> There's also software (Remote Control II) that runs on many Windows PDAs.
>>
>> "CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Dave:
>>>
>>>A closer read of their website reveals that the 890 supports Z-WAVE. They
>>>suggest that, in the future, they will also support other HA protocols.
>>>But,
>>>if you can get a remote to control X10 via an IR543, couldn't you just use
>>>that remote to program the 890? It is, afterall, a learning remote. My
>>>understanding is that you can use the learn function to capture the IR
>>>signals coming out of a separate remote with the Harmony remotes for
>>>devices
>>>not supported on their website.
>>>
>>>In any event, this unit is pretty expensive and doesn't appear to even be
>>>on
>>>the market yet. They want $399 for the remote and $99 for the receiver.
>>>That's a little step. There must be a cheaper but equally elegant way to
>>>do
>>>this!
>>>
>>>Thanks once again for your help.
>>>
>>>Craig
>>>
>>>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>news:4395d044.16679209@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> In particular I would ask Logitech what they mean by, "...for quick and
>>>> easy
>>>> command of home-entertainment equipment and household appliances that
>>>> may
>>>> be
>>>> out of range for a traditional infrared remote."
>>>>
>>>> nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Craig,
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you know what RF frequency the 890 uses?
>>>>>
>>>>>If Logitech has the X-10 IR codes in its library, you can use it with an
>>>>>IR543. The IR543 is limited to a single housecode. I would investigate
>>>>>this
>>>>>before spending this much money on the remote.
>>>>>
>>>>>"CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the info.  You are correct. The 880 does not have RF, but
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>890
>>>>>>does:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/detailsharmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=10930
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, I guess what I'd need for this is a single IR->Powerline converter,
>>>>>>right? Then, I'd aim the IR output of the 890's RF receiver at the
>>>>>>IR->powerline converter (and all of my audio/video gear) to be able to
>>>>>>control my X10 stuff as well as my home entertainment center?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43957318.207643262@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> From the limited specs I can find on the web the 880 seems to be IR
>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>> Even if it has RF, it won't work with North American X-10 unless it
>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>> 310MHz and ASK modulation. And, the only way to program codes into
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the Harmony remotes is by downloading them from Logitech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Insteon uses 902-924MHz with FSK modulation so unless a remote has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> designed specifically for Insteon it's unlikely to support it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most programmable remotes that have RF use 418MHz (N. America) or
>>>>>>> 433.92MHz
>>>>>>> (Europe) and ASK modulation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'd like to get a Harmony remote to reduce "remote clutter." But, is
>>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>>an economical way to control an RF receiver? I like the way you can
>>>>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>6-in-1 RF/IR remote (though I've never used it as a universal
>>>>>>>>remote).
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>know one of the Harmony remotes (the 880) has RF/IR functions. But, I
>>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>know if it will interface with an X10-protocol receiver to convert
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>remote RF controls to powerline controls. Also, what about Insteon?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks much...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Craig
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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