Re: X-10 commands via Harmony remote?

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

In the past they could only be programmed by downloading from their online
database. Perhaps that has changed. I haven't paid much attention to it in
the past few years.

If you can find one, a refurbished Pronto TSU3000 (not color) costs less
than $200. It's far more programmable.

There's also software (Remote Control II) that runs on many Windows PDAs.

"CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Dave:
>
>A closer read of their website reveals that the 890 supports Z-WAVE. They
>suggest that, in the future, they will also support other HA protocols. But,
>if you can get a remote to control X10 via an IR543, couldn't you just use
>that remote to program the 890? It is, afterall, a learning remote. My
>understanding is that you can use the learn function to capture the IR
>signals coming out of a separate remote with the Harmony remotes for devices
>not supported on their website.
>
>In any event, this unit is pretty expensive and doesn't appear to even be on
>the market yet. They want $399 for the remote and $99 for the receiver.
>That's a little step. There must be a cheaper but equally elegant way to do
>this!
>
>Thanks once again for your help.
>
>Craig
>
>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:4395d044.16679209@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> In particular I would ask Logitech what they mean by, "...for quick and
>> easy
>> command of home-entertainment equipment and household appliances that may
>> be
>> out of range for a traditional infrared remote."
>>
>> nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston) wrote:
>>
>>>Craig,
>>>
>>>Do you know what RF frequency the 890 uses?
>>>
>>>If Logitech has the X-10 IR codes in its library, you can use it with an
>>>IR543. The IR543 is limited to a single housecode. I would investigate
>>>this
>>>before spending this much money on the remote.
>>>
>>>"CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Dave:
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the info.  You are correct. The 880 does not have RF, but the
>>>>890
>>>>does:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/detailsharmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=10930
>>>>
>>>>So, I guess what I'd need for this is a single IR->Powerline converter,
>>>>right? Then, I'd aim the IR output of the 890's RF receiver at the
>>>>IR->powerline converter (and all of my audio/video gear) to be able to
>>>>control my X10 stuff as well as my home entertainment center?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again...
>>>>
>>>>Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>news:43957318.207643262@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> From the limited specs I can find on the web the 880 seems to be IR
>>>>> only.
>>>>> Even if it has RF, it won't work with North American X-10 unless it
>>>>> uses
>>>>> 310MHz and ASK modulation. And, the only way to program codes into any
>>>>> of
>>>>> the Harmony remotes is by downloading them from Logitech.
>>>>>
>>>>> Insteon uses 902-924MHz with FSK modulation so unless a remote has been
>>>>> designed specifically for Insteon it's unlikely to support it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most programmable remotes that have RF use 418MHz (N. America) or
>>>>> 433.92MHz
>>>>> (Europe) and ASK modulation.
>>>>>
>>>>> "CeeDub" <craigmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd like to get a Harmony remote to reduce "remote clutter." But, is
>>>>>>there
>>>>>>an economical way to control an RF receiver? I like the way you can use
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>6-in-1 RF/IR remote (though I've never used it as a universal remote).
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>know one of the Harmony remotes (the 880) has RF/IR functions. But, I
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>know if it will interface with an X10-protocol receiver to convert the
>>>>>>remote RF controls to powerline controls. Also, what about Insteon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks much...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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