Re: A real Brain Twister

[ABLE1 <somebody@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 12/23/2022 5:30 PM, RTS wrote:
> On 12/23/2022 1:37 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 12/23/2022 9:41 AM, RTS wrote:
>>> On 12/23/2022 7:54 AM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>> On 12/22/2022 11:29 PM, RTS wrote:
>>>>> On 12/22/2022 7:27 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/22/2022 7:17 PM, Stan Gore wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> I have the identical problem! Interlogix 600-1054-95
>>>>>>> r-11 and 2 TX-E611 installed 3 years ago. 2 weeks ago, 1 flood
>>>>>>> sensor gave a low battery signal. I ordered 2 Duracell CR2450s.
>>>>>>> Before they arrived, the flood sensor gave an offline
>>>>>>> notification. When they arrived, I checked the charge in both
>>>>>>> original Panasonic CR2450s. Neither was low. Nevertheless, I
>>>>>>> replaced both, put the panel into Sensor test mode and confirmed
>>>>>>> operation of both flood sensors by wetting their contacts. This
>>>>>>> placed them both online again. 4 days later, both flood sensors
>>>>>>> gave an offline notification at exactly the same time. This makes
>>>>>>> me suspicious that the problem is with the wireless receiver in
>>>>>>> the Interlogix panel and not with the flood sensors. The only was
>>>>>>> to now be sure that the flood sensors are communicating with the
>>>>>>> panel is to again put the panel into Sensor test mode and trigger
>>>>>>> the flood sensors. Most annoying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Stan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please take the following with old brain cells trying to remember
>>>>>> details.  Meaning what you are about to read is of limited accuracy.
>>>>>> It is close but if I missed something don't blame me just figure
>>>>>> it out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, I am not sure I had typed this previously but what you need
>>>>>> to do
>>>>>> is after you have replaced the batteries in the TX-E611 flood sensor
>>>>>> and close it up.  Then go into programming of the receiver and
>>>>>> turn off
>>>>>> segment 1 for the transmitter zone to disable the zone or
>>>>>> transmitter.
>>>>>> Then perform a learn in of the transmitter to that specific zone
>>>>>> as you
>>>>>> did originally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do not ask me why this works but it DOES!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By all means come back and post your results and where on the
>>>>>> planet you
>>>>>> located.  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a Merry Christmas!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yea, Les,  I was going to suggest the same thing.
>>>>> After battery replacement on near any transmitter I've ever worked
>>>>> on, a delete and relearn is the smoothest way to restore good comm
>>>>> links..
>>>>> Like you said, don't know why for sure, but time has told me it
>>>>> works..
>>>>> RTS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My experience has been that it has only been the Flood Sensor that
>>>> is an
>>>> issue in this way!!  And it took me a good bit of frustration to figure
>>>> it out!!
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>> Les, does the sensors you've used or worked on, use resistance or
>>> inductance as the trigger type.?.
>>> the inductance type is more prone to a voltage/current change..
>>> could be when the battery drained below the ckt's ability to
>>> compensate for, it altered some other balance ckt's in the device..
>>> Just a guess, mind you...
>>> RTS
>>
>> Rocky,
>>
>> It really depends on the sensor and how it is set for the application.
>> These Flood Sensor have 4 small metal gold tabs on the bottom
>> that when they get wet there is an amount of conductance that happens
>> between the tabs which is picked up by the internal circuitry and then
>> sends out a signal.  So for this I would say it is inductance or current
>> flow that happens.
>>
>> For some odd reason when the batteries are replaced it does not not talk
>> to the receiver as before and needs to be re-learned back into the
>> system.
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
> Sorry about my brain fart,  I meant to same (least I thought so),
> Balance Bridge (not so much inductance), circuit..
> Old age does those's kinds of thing...  ;-)
> RTS
>

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND!!!