Re: A real Brain Twister

[RTS <gafa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 12/23/2022 1:37 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
> On 12/23/2022 9:41 AM, RTS wrote:
>> On 12/23/2022 7:54 AM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>> On 12/22/2022 11:29 PM, RTS wrote:
>>>> On 12/22/2022 7:27 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>>> On 12/22/2022 7:17 PM, Stan Gore wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> I have the identical problem! Interlogix 600-1054-95
>>>>>> r-11 and 2 TX-E611 installed 3 years ago. 2 weeks ago, 1 flood
>>>>>> sensor gave a low battery signal. I ordered 2 Duracell CR2450s.
>>>>>> Before they arrived, the flood sensor gave an offline
>>>>>> notification. When they arrived, I checked the charge in both
>>>>>> original Panasonic CR2450s. Neither was low. Nevertheless, I
>>>>>> replaced both, put the panel into Sensor test mode and confirmed
>>>>>> operation of both flood sensors by wetting their contacts. This
>>>>>> placed them both online again. 4 days later, both flood sensors
>>>>>> gave an offline notification at exactly the same time. This makes
>>>>>> me suspicious that the problem is with the wireless receiver in
>>>>>> the Interlogix panel and not with the flood sensors. The only was
>>>>>> to now be sure that the flood sensors are communicating with the
>>>>>> panel is to again put the panel into Sensor test mode and trigger
>>>>>> the flood sensors. Most annoying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take the following with old brain cells trying to remember
>>>>> details.  Meaning what you are about to read is of limited accuracy.
>>>>> It is close but if I missed something don't blame me just figure it
>>>>> out!
>>>>>
>>>>> But, I am not sure I had typed this previously but what you need to do
>>>>> is after you have replaced the batteries in the TX-E611 flood sensor
>>>>> and close it up.  Then go into programming of the receiver and turn
>>>>> off
>>>>> segment 1 for the transmitter zone to disable the zone or transmitter.
>>>>> Then perform a learn in of the transmitter to that specific zone as
>>>>> you
>>>>> did originally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not ask me why this works but it DOES!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> By all means come back and post your results and where on the
>>>>> planet you
>>>>> located.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a Merry Christmas!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yea, Les,  I was going to suggest the same thing.
>>>> After battery replacement on near any transmitter I've ever worked
>>>> on, a delete and relearn is the smoothest way to restore good comm
>>>> links..
>>>> Like you said, don't know why for sure, but time has told me it works..
>>>> RTS
>>>
>>>
>>> My experience has been that it has only been the Flood Sensor that is an
>>> issue in this way!!  And it took me a good bit of frustration to figure
>>> it out!!
>>>
>>> Les
>> Les, does the sensors you've used or worked on, use resistance or
>> inductance as the trigger type.?.
>> the inductance type is more prone to a voltage/current change..
>> could be when the battery drained below the ckt's ability to
>> compensate for, it altered some other balance ckt's in the device..
>> Just a guess, mind you...
>> RTS
>
> Rocky,
>
> It really depends on the sensor and how it is set for the application.
> These Flood Sensor have 4 small metal gold tabs on the bottom
> that when they get wet there is an amount of conductance that happens
> between the tabs which is picked up by the internal circuitry and then
> sends out a signal.  So for this I would say it is inductance or current
> flow that happens.
>
> For some odd reason when the batteries are replaced it does not not talk
> to the receiver as before and needs to be re-learned back into the system.
>
> Les
>
>
Sorry about my brain fart,  I meant to same (least I thought so),
Balance Bridge (not so much inductance), circuit..
Old age does those's kinds of thing...  ;-)
RTS

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