Re: Just for discussion.

[ABLE1 <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 7/22/2020 10:30 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 7/21/2020 8:35 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 5:31:27 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2020 4:13 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep.  They can and will although usually you only hear about it in an
>>>> interrogation.  Sometimes they will do it to try and get you to doubt
>>>> your own memory.  "Oh, I've been with the department since 19xx, and no
>>>> officer by that name ever existed.  Certainly not at the rank and
>>>> position you claim."Â  No shit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>> Hmmmmmmm sounds like you were on the wrong end of the stick.
>>> And you remember it well!! Sorry to hear.  It is too bad that
>>> kind of stuff has to happen.
>>>
>>> But, then again it is unlikely it will never change given the condition
>>> of the human psychic.  We can wish for better, doesn't mean we will ever
>>> get it.  Years ago I had purchased some furniture from a guy I worked
>>> with.  Found out later that he was arrested for property theft.
>>>
>>> I reported to State Police that I had two pieces and wanted to get them
>>> out of my apartment.  Was asked by the officer on the case to come to
>>> the police barracks to make the report.  Turns out that two detectives
>>> started to imply that I was involved in the theft or I should have known
>>> the furniture was hot because of the low price that paid. It was about
>>> time my button got pushed.  I gave them a piece of my mind, demanded
>>> that they get the furniture removed from my apartment and walked out.
>>> I ended up calling again in two weeks and told the detective that if the
>>> stuff was not picked up that day I was going to put it out in the
>>> parking lot and they can come by at any time to get it.  He was there
>>> within the hour.  Ended up as a witness for the prosecution and had to
>>> sit outside the courtroom for 3 days counting bricks on the wall. '763'
>>> He pleaded guilty to a lesser charge or something.  Huge PITA!!!
>>>
>>> Yes, I remember it well!!
>>>
>>> As well as a very few other police moments in my life.
>>> Some I won, some not so much.  All minor issues.
>>> As I understand the "statutes of limitations" have expired.  ;-)
>>>
>>> Les
>>
>> When I was a kid I did a lot of bad stuff. But ---- I was always good
>> at covering my ass so I wouldn't get caught. And I mean some REALLY
>> bad and dangerous stuff.
>>
>> However the one time I did have a run in with the law ( and I may have
>> mentioned it here before) was about 20/25 years ago.
>>
>> Had a customer who's store front window was broken in -- in the middle
>> of the night. He responded and stayed at the store until morning. He
>> called the glazer and me. Wanted me to be on standby to refoil the
>> window after the glass was installed. Well, the glazer didn't show up
>> until about 6PM so there I am at 9PM at night with keys to the store,
>> rewiring and installing the foil. My van is parked right at the curb
>> and front entrance to the store. So --- I'm going in and out of the
>> store to the van for parts and tools and locking up everything because
>> 4 stores down the block is a Dominos pizza with a bunch of teenagers
>> making a lot of noise and raising hell.
>>
>> So, I needed a hacksaw from the van. I unlocked the store front door,
>> walked directly to the van, opened the side door, climb in and going
>> through my tool basket looking for my hacksaw and the kids go running
>> by the van, banging on the side and hooting and hollering and try to
>> slide the door shut on me. I back out of the van and stand there
>> looking at them to see what their next move is going to be. So the
>> biggest one a little taller than me, with purple hair and pierced
>> eyebrow, walks up to me followed by the other 4 pushes me on the
>> shoulder and asks me "What do you think YOUR"RE going to do?". At
>> which point I rapped him in the head 4 or 5 times with the hacksaw. He
>> WAS lucky in one respect that I didn't come out to the van for a hammer.
>>
>> Here's where I made the mistake. I should have called the cops but
>> after I hit him they ran away down the street. I thought it was over
>> with. But THEY called the cops. When the cops showed up they spoke to
>> the kids first and I have no idea what they told them. The cops then
>> asked me what happened and then went back to the patrol car. Shortly
>> after that, another patrol car showed up and the first one took off.
>> The second cops came in to the store saw what I was working on and in
>> the alarm business and said that they were supposed to take me into
>> custody since it was a case of assault. I told them what happened and
>> It was pretty obvious that I didn't just take a mind to attack 5
>> teeagers with a hacksow. So they just gave me a summons to appear.
>> Come to find out the purple hair kids father was a cop. So I'm
>> guessing that the cops in the first patrol car knew his father, and
>> just told the second cops to arrest me.
>> I had to pay $5k to an attorney and got off with a warning. I know the
>> judge knew what had happened. (almost lost my pistol license too) I
>> looked for the kid at the pizza place for a long time afterwards but
>> never did see him again. It turned out to be a good thing for both of us.
>> Lucky kid and lucky me.
>> Next time I would have gotten a much longer sentence.
>>
>
> One time out at the lake (dirt road) a buddy of mine was leaving pulling
> his boat.  If he was doing 10 MPH at the time it would be an
> exaggeration.  He had pulled off the side of the road, and eased towards
> the middle to pass some pedestrians.  In the other direction a small car
> came drifting around the hill side.  Full on drifting out in the middle
> of the road.  It was a pretty long sweeping turn so he had to be
> cooking.  He just raked all the way down the side of my buddies truck
> and boat and then spun out coming to a stop.  The first cop who
> responded in plane clothes.  Said they were both at fault, so he could
> write up a report, write them both a ticket, or they could just go home
> and each let their own insurance handle it.
>
> I walked out, paced off the center line of the road and then walked the
> ruts (yes ruts) left from drifting, and said really load so everybody
> within yelling distance could hear me, "The kid must be related to
> somebody because he was probably drifting at over 100 miles per hour
> when he cross the center line and hit (my buddy's) vehicle.  (My buddy)
> wasn't even over the center line."  That cop looked at me.  He face
> showed fear and then hatred as I walked to my truck and said, "You tell
> that punk to keep his wreck off the road until I get out of here.  I
> can't afford to replace my truck and boat at my own expense because the
> cops refuse write him up for criminal speed."
>
> Later I asked my buddy and sure enough the cop bullied him into leaving
> without an accident report under a threat of a false ticket for being
> over the center line.  I saw it happen and I knew better.  The evidence
> was clear as day on the road.  You could clearly see the drift marks
> from the car even after several other vehicles had driven over them.
>
> $80K truck with every surface on drivers side smashed or crushed. (brand
> new that year)  Boat totaled.  Maybe $30K.  Cop refuses to write an
> accident report and shows fear on face when somebody says something
> about it.


That was just plain nasty to say the least!!  I can't top that
but here is one story that comes to mind.

Back in 1967 after returning home from my military time half way around
the world with the US Navy, I was visiting a friend in town.
I was driving a 56 Ford.  When I was leaving I bumped the car behind me
getting out of the parking space. No big deal, I continued home.  After
about 15 minutes, I received a call from the person I was visiting.  She
asked if I had hit a car when I was leaving.  I said, yes, I bumped the
car behind me??  She well the Cops are looking for you!!  I said, I will
be right there.  I got there and sure enough the car behind me was I
believe a Chevy Nova and had Aluminum Bumpers. My Ford had steel
vertical bumperets.  Needless to say it left a dent in the bumper upon a
minor bump.

I told the owner, who I also knew, that I would take care of it!!
Cop came over and asked for my information.  Told him that I will
take care of the damage since it was my fault.  He then said, I will
have to report this as "leaving the scene of an accident".  WHAT?!?!

I went to court and explained the situation to the Judge. Who after
deliberation of about 40 milliseconds dropped the gavel and said,
"THREE MONTHS SUSPENSION".      I then realized that I was made
an example of since they actually caught one this time.

Les