Re: Burglar Alarm Face book group

["Bob La Londe" <none@xxxxxxxxxx>]

"ABLE1" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On 9/29/2015 9:35 PM, Jim wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 9:07:45 AM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
>>> On 9/26/2015 1:27 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>>> Les,
>>>>
>>>> I've never used FB for my contracting company, but it definitely
>>>> generates
>>>> business for my mold making business.  LinkedIn too.  I periodically
>>>> write
>>>> an article or interesting social post, and then share it to other pages
>>>> as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I had a mold customer visit me here in my shop to discuss some
>>>> designs we are working on.  That's pretty rare since I ship molds all
>>>> over
>>>> the country and even around the world.  I made a big deal out of it and
>>>> shared it on fishing groups, tackle making groups, and even on his
>>>> business
>>>> page as a purely fun and social post.  It resulted in about 700 visits
>>>> to my
>>>> FB page and two new custom jobs.  I imagine if I did similar things for
>>>> my
>>>> contracting business I could drives new jobs that way too.
>>>>
>>>> To go further an occassional fishing partner of mine uses socail medai
>>>> and
>>>> personal contacts to drive business his way.  He is a new car salesman
>>>> and
>>>> since he started doing that he has been the number one new vehicle
>>>> salesman
>>>> in his dealership every single month.  He doesn't even do the
>>>> advertising
>>>> side of it.  Just has a huge friends list and does things like post
>>>> smiling
>>>> pictures of people with their shiny new pickup truck.
>>>>
>>>> I hated Facebook and Linked-In just like you guys, but I have learned a
>>>> little bit about how to use them to drive business also.
>>>>
>>>> Add on that all my Aunts and Uncles and Cousins stay in touch through
>>>> Facebook...
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hear you Bob, but........................
>>>
>>> I guess that I am too much like my Dad.  He was the top Ford mechanic at
>>> a local large dealership.  He was the guy that could listen to an engine
>>> with a long screwdriver up against his ear and the engine block and tell
>>> you that a certain valve had a bad gap at the rocker and was tapping or
>>> the timing was off by a frog hair.
>>>
>>> He retired at the right time since the new computer stuff was starting
>>> to takeover and he did not understand the new fangled thingies.
>>>
>>> In those days nobody could make a engine cheat on a emissions test.
>>> Well, there were no emissions test even to consider cheating on. :-)
>>>
>>> I know the new stuff can do this or that when applied and adjusted to
>>> meet the need and desires but I am just to old to strain my brain on the
>>> issue.  For me it is a lot easier to ignore and move on with the
>>> workload that I presently have.............. which is significant.
>>>
>>> Also, I was on LinkedIN for a period of time a number of years ago when
>>> I thought it might be a benefit.  Well it wasn't and I cancelled it as
>>> well.  As the saying goes; "It just ain't my cup of tea."
>>>
>>> BTW nice slip in of the https://www.facebook.com/CNCMOLDSNSTUFF
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I won't be visiting.  I included here for the additional
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Have a good next week Bob.  I have another full plate.  I have a
>>> security/camera/phone customer that thinks I might be ABLE to help them
>>> fix their dining area background music and order number paging system.
>>>
>>> Well yeaaaaaa....................
>>>
>>> Just have to figure out how to get something called Pandora connected
>>> via WiFi to a paging amp to drop in 2x2 ceiling speakers.
>>>
>>> And they pay me to do this stuff????  Cool!!
>>>
>>> Les
>>
>> Hi Les,
>>
>> I do this kind of audio work on a regular basis. I don't know what your
>> specifics are but here's a little bit of information that may be useful.
>> Although Pandora is free or a paid service, the free service does have
>> it's quirks. You can only pick your category of songs but not specific
>> songs. You can choose a performer or a style of music but Pandora plays
>> pretty much what it wants to at random ..... keeping within a genre. The
>> most annoying thing about it is that the volume is not constant. Some
>> music is loud some is too soft. When I set up music systems for people I
>> try to use Sonos. This way people can play their own music from their
>> Ipads/IPhones or computers as well as choosing from about 150 internet
>> radio stations. Sonos is fabulous to work with and delivers lots of
>> smiles to the end users. They love it.
>>
>> One of the aspects of jobs like this is that their WiFi network needs to
>> be pretty robust if they want to be able to control their music from all
>> over the home. They usually don't want to go for the extra bucks up front
>> but once they get a taste of being able to control their music from their
>> I/Phone/Pad they want to do if from anywhere in the house and then I get
>> called back to enhance the WiFi network.  I usually wind up installing
>> wireless access points or additional routers with DHCP disabled. Also,
>> the Power line carrier IP network extenders work pretty good in getting
>> the network to other parts of the house without having to run wires. It
>> takes some practice to learn how to install them quickly but once you've
>> mastered it .... it works great. There are new ones out now that not only
>> carry the hardwire network but also create a WiFi area from the plug in
>> unit.
>>
>> Anyway, If you need any help, let me know.
>>
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for the input.  I just looked at the Sonos site and a quick look at
> the components.  This equipment looks like it is geared more for the high
> end residential user.  The project I am involved with is a commercial
> restaurant dining room for background music as well as paging for order
> numbers.
>
> I have never used Pandora but the customer is using it an likes it. They
> also have some knowledge about another service called Spotify.
>
> The comments you made about Pandora gives me a little concern but with
> equipment I am looking at should handle what ever service they want to
> use.
>
> I am thinking that all of this new audio stuff will have its quirks of one
> type or another.
>
> BTW the equipment I am looking at is:
> https://gracedigital.com/shop/tuner-pro/
>
> Connected to a Episode commercial amp ECA-70MIXAMP-1-60 with 2x2 drop in
> ceiling speakers.
>
> Just dropped a ball park number today and got a "THAT MUCH??" response.
>
> We will see how it goes.
>
> Again thanks for the extra input.
>
> Les


Is the service licensed for commercial use?  You know that no matter what
they say or even what you write down the customer will swear under oath to
AZCAP and BMI that the you the professional contractor told them it was OK
and they had no reason not to believe you since you are the professional.
Since you are the professional everybody will say, "you should have known
better."

Restaurants and grocery stores seem to always think they can get value added
services for free.  There is royalty free music available and I have
periodically chased some down for background for MOH with a small player of
some kind.  That's not a broadcast a service though. Its pre-recorded
royalty free music.

I seem to recall it was ok to "play the radio" , but I don't think that
applies to on-line services.  I think thats putting an FM aerial on the
building and hooking it to a receiver.