Re: paradox sp5500

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:01:25 AM UTC-4, proguard wrote:
> On 22 =CE=91=CF=80=CF=81, 23:18, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:51:19 AM UTC-4, mleuck wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 20, 2012 11:40:17 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:53:01 PM UTC-4, mleuck wrote:
> >
> > > > > > That hasn't created any problems for MY central station, or me.=
 Every so often when I have a gas alarm or other non common device, When pu=
tting an account on line I just have to indicate on the set up paper work h=
ow I want my central to respond when they get that signal. Having delt with=
 4/2format for so many years, that's not an effort for me to do and the cen=
tral is used to it, I guess..... because they say it's no problem. However,=
 in the present generation of programing for Dummys, it's obvious that inst=
allers having to think about what they are doing is not part of an installa=
tion.
> >
> > > > > That's fine for YOUR central station but with others if the panel=
 cannot send the proper CID/SIA signals it's not accepted.
> >
> > > > Then maybe your central station should up-grade it's receiver to on=
e that you don't have to wind up every morning. (just kidding)
> >
> > > > You mean to say that with all of the electronical thingys available=
 today that there are central stations that only have receivers that wont a=
ccept anything but full CID/SIA codes?
> >
> > > > What about all the legacy panels out there? My guess is that there =
are more legacy panels in the field than CID/SIA only panels .... or at lea=
st enough of them so that centrals can't/wouldn't just ignore them. I've go=
t a few accounts that send both CID and 4/2 format on the same account numb=
er and one account with and old Adcor, sending 3/1
> >
> > > We have tons of 4x2, Modem and whatever accounts, I was referring to =
panels that can send CID or SIA but can't properly send the event. It's not=
 a big deal to design that into a panel
> >
> > It's likewise not a big deal to tell the central station what to do whe=
n they receive a certain signal. If they can do it for 4/2 format they can =
do it for CID also.- =CE=91=CF=80=CF=8C=CE=BA=CF=81=CF=85=CF=88=CE=B7 =CE=
=BA=CE=B5=CE=B9=CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=85 =CF=83=CE=B5 =CF=80=CE=B1=CF=
=81=CE=AC=CE=B8=CE=B5=CF=83=CE=B7 -
> >
> > - =CE=95=CE=BC=CF=86=CE=AC=CE=BD=CE=B9=CF=83=CE=B7 =CE=BA=CE=B5=CE=B9=
=CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=85 =CF=83=CE=B5 =CF=80=CE=B1=CF=81=CE=AC=CE=B8=
=CE=B5=CF=83=CE=B7 -
>=20
> They are plenty of new panels in the market that add a new event with
> a cid code that the arc has not upload at the cid format. Its easy as
> you said for the tech to inform the central station for this new
> event. But most of the times the tech guy does not know about this
> "unknown" new event (i.e. "log full", "supervision lost" etc) So how
> will inform the arc? :-)

I'm not sure that I understand that.=20
If I understand you right, the Tech guy may not know that the "new" code is=
 in the panel but the central should have standard operation procedures to =
respond to certain codes even if they haven't been told to respond to them.=
 and the least that they should do is inform the customer or the alarm comp=
any that this "new" code has been received. =20

The situation with Napco panels is:
Rather than having lot's of CID codes pre programed into the Firmware of th=
e panel, Napco just sends the basic essential codes ..... Burg, Fire, Panic=
,24hour, telephone line and communication fail, opening and closing signals=
, low battery, AC power loss, restore, trouble, and (I think) gas, CID code=
s. There are more but I don't remember all of them. Most other manufacturer=
s panels can send in 5o or 100 or more different CID codes and I think some=
 one said that some panels allow you to add your own codes, if they're not =
part of the original list. So with Napco, in the event that you are monitor=
ing, let's say a water sensor, you have to designate it as a 24hour zone re=
port in the programing and then tell the central station that the signal th=
at they receive on that zone is a water sensor alarm rather than the panel =
being able to send in the CID code for a water sensor. =20

As I say, it's not a big deal and doesn't happen that often.