Re: Some installers should not be working on advanced panels

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"tourman" <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 4:44 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mar 20, 9:41 am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > RHC: There seem to be two widely varying philosophies towards earning
> > a living at play here..
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> > Many if not most people work to earn money sufficient to allow them to
> > live properly. This can even evolve such that the quest for money and
> > wealth becomes an overriding factor in their lives, dominating all
> > else. This class of people "work to live".( on one extreme). As such,
> > it is often easiest to to take shortcuts in the work they do, partly
> > through laziness and partly because it is too easy to work without the
> > need to develop and follow internal standards of competency, quality
> > and honesty. Especially when working for someone else, they see no
> > personal attachment to whatever they do. Many trudge through life not
> > even enjoying what they do for a living.
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> > Then there are the lucky minority who are self motivated in their
> > work, and have found something they truly love to do, or who work for
> > themselves. Many of these people "live to work" (on the other
> > extreme). They enjoy what they do and see the results of their work
> > both in customer satisfaction and financial results. They have a
> > personal stake in the quality of their work and the customer
> > satisfaction that comes from this attitude towards their endeavours.
> > The business is theirs, and in the case of small business, they are
> > the business !
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> > When one "side" looks at the other, the disparities become quickly
> > evident. Thank your lucky stars you are one of the lucky ones who work
> > for themselves.....-
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> I've been a gadget guy and a Mr fixit from the time I was a kid.
> At this stage of my life, many people ask me "when are you going to
> retire?" or "when are you going to stop working?"
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> I've come up with a few reasons:
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> Since I love what I do, even if I retired, I'd still be doing it.
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> Since I love what I do, I never have to worry about dividing my time
> between work and play.
> I do what I do, even in my (so called) spare time.
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> And that old saying ...... find what you love to do and you'll never
> work a day in your life.
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> One of the (so called) secrets I will occasionally mention to people
> who are searching for their path in a profession, is to have (or at
> least show) enthusiasm about what ever it is that you are doing. Even
> to the point of forcing yourself to have it. It doesn't always work,
> but as I see it, if people see that you are enthused about what you
> are doing, it's sort of catching. Customers see it and interpret it as
> someone anxious and likely to do a good job. And, if you are working
> for someone else, it is usually singled out and noticed by employers,
> possibly leading to advancement. I find that you can even catch it
> from yourself as it becomes a part of your personality. That is ....
> once you see the results of what enthusiasm does ..... you actually do
> become excited about your profession and doing a good job.
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> That coupled with my other sage advice about the big secret to running
> a sucessful business has worked for me:
> Tell the customer what you are going to do .... and do it.

RHC: Well put Jim. Years ago when I worked in middle management of a
large corporation, I interviewed and hired many people for many
different kinds of jobs within the organization. The final part of the
interview process was the personal interview after all the first steps
were met by the interviewee... previous work experience, education
levels, special past experience which related to the particular job in
question. One of the things that I looked for was an eager, bright,
inquiring person, with drive above all, who was anxious to make a
difference, and one who had done some investigation of the company,
and had an idea of where they thought they could fit in. Regardless of
their place in the formal ranking for the job, I always looked much
more closely at these people, because they had the right attitude for
success. I dismissed many times people who came to me with endless
degrees, and who thought that we owed them a job simply because of
their education, and who showed no internalized ambition or drive to
excel (and you'd be surprised how many people fit this description)

I don't want  to oversimplify the process, but most of the time it
came down to gut feel about the person based on how they came across
during the job interview. People with the right "genes for success"
know how to make the right moves for success. Only once did I hire
someone who was totally out of her league and nervous, but I suspected
she had what it took. So we went down to the cafeteria where she felt
more comfortable, and I got her to come out of her shell over a long
cup of coffee to the point where I could make the decision to hire
her. Well some 15 years later, when I retired from the company, she
was vice president of the company, and came to my retirement for a big
hug.....

Success is a matter of attitude, hard work, trust, honesty and drive
as much as it is about anything else. Those who have it will succeed,
all else being equal. Those who drift aimlessly through life will
always be mediocre in what they achieve, luck notwithstanding......

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I too did some hiring when working for Corporate America.  Had an interview
with a guy that got so relaxed towards the end of the interview that when I
asked about prior employers stated the following.

"When I worked for XYZ Company and we were out on strike, I was the only one
that had the balls to climb over the fence, past the guard dogs and slice
the tires on the company trucks."

The interview was very short after that.  Sad part was up and until that
moment he was on the top of my list for hiring.  All I can say is that he
was honest................................

I hope he is reading this and reflexes back to that moment when time stood
still.

Les