Re: Some installers should not be working on advanced panels

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mar 20, 7:36=A0am, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mar 19, 8:48=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Mar 18, 4:01=A0pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > They should put a very big note in Vista 32FB- 128 FB BP etc. As Well
> > > as NX-8 etc etc.
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> > > WARNING THIS PANEL IS TO BE INSTALLED AND PROGRAMMED ONLY BY
> > > EXPERIENCED INSTALLERS. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PROGRAM BY HAND UNLESS YOU
> > > KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING OR YOU COULD PUT LIFE AND PROPERTY AT
> > > RISK.
> > > THIS PANEL HAS EXTENSIVE MENUS AND ADVANCED FUNCTIONS =A0ONLY A
> > > QUALIFIED TECH WILL FULLY UNDERSTAND.
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> > > IF YOU ARE NOT SURE KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF AND PUT YOUR SCREW DRIVER DOW=
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> > > AND GET SOME ONE WHO DOES.
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> > > Once again I found some fucking idiot =A0installers who tried to inst=
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> > > addressable smokes on the 2 wire loop could not get it working so the=
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> > > just turned off zone and left it disabled =A0over year 1/2 ago.
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> > > Could not get heat loop working had series and parallel resistors on
> > > it. so they disabled it and told no one .
> > > had wrong resistors where the hell they came up with 10 k resistors
> > > when only 2 k come with panels.
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> > > This was a 3 million dollar home and there where no 120 daisy chain
> > > smokes in residence.
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> > Hell, I know people in this business who shouldn't even be allowed to
> > wire a home, much less install anything.
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> > Sometimes I'll have to use an installer "borrowed" from another
> > company. I mean, I know I've been doing this for over 40 years and
> > could probably snake a wire up a brick wall, but some of these guys
> > after being in the trade for 20 years, will take a half hour trying to
> > snake a wire up an inside, non insolated wall. I'll see their
> > frustration, walk over, snake it in less than a minute and watch their
> > surprised amazement. There are only a small number of options to snake
> > a wire anywhere and if =A0you don't know them after at least a couple o=
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> > years of trial, error and instruction ..... man ...... go do something
> > else for a living.
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> I could never understand people that =A0hate there job so badly it
> effects there work go find something you do like to do
> so many times i hear this I hate this job i hate this employer i dont
> want to go to school im only working here to have benefits etc etc.

RHC: There seem to be two widely varying philosophies towards earning
a living at play here..

Many if not most people work to earn money sufficient to allow them to
live properly. This can even evolve such that the quest for money and
wealth becomes an overriding factor in their lives, dominating all
else. This class of people "work to live".( on one extreme). As such,
it is often easiest to to take shortcuts in the work they do, partly
through laziness and partly because it is too easy to work without the
need to develop and follow internal standards of competency, quality
and honesty. Especially when working for someone else, they see no
personal attachment to whatever they do. Many trudge through life not
even enjoying what they do for a living.

Then there are the lucky minority who are self motivated in their
work, and have found something they truly love to do, or who work for
themselves. Many of these people "live to work" (on the other
extreme). They enjoy what they do and see the results of their work
both in customer satisfaction and financial results. They have a
personal stake in the quality of their work and the customer
satisfaction that comes from this attitude towards their endeavours.
The business is theirs, and in the case of small business, they are
the business !

When one "side" looks at the other, the disparities become quickly
evident. Thank your lucky stars you are one of the lucky ones who work
for themselves.....