Re: Automatic fire sprinklers

[mleuck <m.leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 14, 10:33=A0pm, Evan <evan.news.re...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 14, 4:41=A0pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
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> > On Jan 14, 10:54=A0am, Frank Kurz <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On 13/01/2011 4:56 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
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> > > > On Jan 13, 7:46 am, nick markowitz<nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
> > > >> On Jan 12, 11:22 pm, Smitty Two<prestwh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote=
:
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> > > >>> In article
> > > >>> <e44ecd7c-97da-4094-9b03-a80076a6c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
m>,
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> > > >>> =A0 Evan<evan.news.re...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
> > > >>>> All I claimed was that such things would not be
> > > >>>> required if
> > > >>>> there was not a trend of accidents...
>
> > > >>> Bzzt. Incorrect. GFCIs became law for one reason: Someone who sto=
od to
> > > >>> make tens of millions of dollars selling them lobbied for the law=
. There
> > > >>> is no trend of accidents.
>
> > > >> I have seen GFCI prevent many accidents over the years but I have =
also
> > > >> seen them bypassed as well.
> > > >> where back to the people who get zapped are the ones using frayed
> > > >> extension cords or cords with grounds cut off and plugged in back
> > > >> wards etc etc.
> > > >> Every time you read an electrocution report in any of the trade
> > > >> magazines the individual has done something to cause the accident.
> > > >> latest article was on a farm where pressure washer was totally
> > > >> corroded safety shields off and =A0no ground and gfci bypassed won=
der
> > > >> why some one died.
>
> > > > So exactly what is the "maintenance" on a basic sprinkler system? =
=A0I'm
> > > > asking because I'm installing sprinklers in the garage I'm building=
.
> > > > I ran water pipes off the main cold coming in and I bought some of
> > > > those sprinklers with the little expansion glass pieces in the
> > > > centers. =A0You certainly can't test tripping one of them because t=
hen
> > > > you have to replace it.
>
> > > In our neck of the woods you'd require a back-flow preventer on your
> > > sprinkler system to avoid contamination of the domestic supply. =A0Th=
at
> > > has to be inspected annually. =A0Check with your local AHJ regarding =
any
> > > further requirements. =A0You may be required to interconnect your smo=
ke
> > > alarms to a flow switch. =A0If it's a heated garage and depending on =
your
> > > location, you may require a low temperature alarm. =A0In fact it migh=
t not
> > > be a bad idea to have one anyway and interconnect it to your monitore=
d
> > > security system.
>
> > So, about how many people have any kind of security system
> > in their house? =A0They're pretty rare here in small-town Midwest.
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> That is a piss poor excuse... =A0Do you have door locks on your doors
> in small-town Midwest too? =A0Or is the town so small and safe that
> everyone would be on red alert the moment a strange car pulled off
> the main road at the blinking traffic signal at the one intersection?
>
> Wow... =A0Sadly the ridiculous things that are being offered as
> challenges and/or excuses against requiring automatic fire sprinklers
> in homes are surprising me... =A0Which shouldn't, I mean airbags became
> a requirement in cars because people were failing to use the
> seatbelts...
> In many accidents the combination of airbag and seatbelt will save
> your life...
>
> ~~ Evan

You keep missing the point, if someone wants a house full of
sprinklers or a car with airbags and seatbelts fine but don't have the
government mandate it